Reset metronome when launching scene
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Reset metronome when launching scene
Hello,
Is it possible in Ableton Live 9 to reset the metronome when launching a scene?
Say I have 3 scenes (all at the same BPM) and scene 1 is playing. I want to be able to launch scene 2 whenever I want, and that the click syncs with it when launching it.
If I set quantization to "none" for all clips in scene 2, then scene 2 is launched as I want, but the click is not synced with it.
=> if scene 3 is launched with quantization = 1 bar, it will start in sync with the click, not with scene 2.
I found another topic on the same issue but with no answer (or I didn't understand it):
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=155635
Cheers,
Moussa
Is it possible in Ableton Live 9 to reset the metronome when launching a scene?
Say I have 3 scenes (all at the same BPM) and scene 1 is playing. I want to be able to launch scene 2 whenever I want, and that the click syncs with it when launching it.
If I set quantization to "none" for all clips in scene 2, then scene 2 is launched as I want, but the click is not synced with it.
=> if scene 3 is launched with quantization = 1 bar, it will start in sync with the click, not with scene 2.
I found another topic on the same issue but with no answer (or I didn't understand it):
viewtopic.php?f=2&t=155635
Cheers,
Moussa
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
No time here but this sounds interesting and i'd need this as well. Gonna try the m4l approach. It should work but i am concerned about timing issues.
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
I think the global time is an absolute reference so you can't reset the metronome per se. You could try to reset or alter the tempo at the time you launch your scene 2 using ClyphX maybe. Another thing would be to have a click track rather than a metronome which is synced to your scene 2 launch.
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
Thanks for your answers !
I haven't tried with ClyphX but although it looks quite useful for a lot of stuff (didn't know it - looks useful, thanks!) I doubt it would work here: I've tried resetting BPM by renaming the scene but it doesn't work - I've also tried midi mapping the metronome value (via IAC) and I also didn't manage to have it running.
Using a midi click would enable to have the click synced with scene 2, but still scene 3 would be triggered with respect to the global clock, not with the midi click
If there's a way to do it in M4L I'm quite interested !
Cheers,
Moussa
I haven't tried with ClyphX but although it looks quite useful for a lot of stuff (didn't know it - looks useful, thanks!) I doubt it would work here: I've tried resetting BPM by renaming the scene but it doesn't work - I've also tried midi mapping the metronome value (via IAC) and I also didn't manage to have it running.
Using a midi click would enable to have the click synced with scene 2, but still scene 3 would be triggered with respect to the global clock, not with the midi click
If there's a way to do it in M4L I'm quite interested !
Cheers,
Moussa
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
After re-reading my post, I meant to say Time Signature not Tempo. Are you using 4/4? Also, can you quantize your scene 2 launch to a 1/16th or 1/8th? If you use "none" then it really limits your ability to do any sync at all.
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
Tanks clydesdale for your answer.
I tried changing time signature by renaming scenes and it also doesn't work . The global clock does change its time signature, but it's not reset when launching scene 2.
Yes, scene 1 is in 4/4.
I've also tried using 1/16th as quantization for scene 2 but it also does not work.
Thanks again for your suggestions !
Cheers,
Moussa
I tried changing time signature by renaming scenes and it also doesn't work . The global clock does change its time signature, but it's not reset when launching scene 2.
Yes, scene 1 is in 4/4.
I've also tried using 1/16th as quantization for scene 2 but it also does not work.
Thanks again for your suggestions !
Cheers,
Moussa
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
My idea with m4l would be to set transport to (X+1).1.1 where X is the current bar when you launch a scene.
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
legato clip launch mode
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/launching-clips/
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/launching-clips/
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
Hello again,
Thanks Tone Deft for your reply - it does keep the sync between scenes, but it's not quite what I want, since it doesn't sync with the main clock (and for example all the next scenes that have quantised launched don't launch exactly at the right time).
And thanks chapelier fou for your idea.
I've managed to do a M4L device that seems to work:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... otonextbar
I'm really a beginner in M4L so I'm sure it can be improved, but so far it does what I want
Cheers, and thanks again to everyone for your help !
Moussa
Thanks Tone Deft for your reply - it does keep the sync between scenes, but it's not quite what I want, since it doesn't sync with the main clock (and for example all the next scenes that have quantised launched don't launch exactly at the right time).
And thanks chapelier fou for your idea.
I've managed to do a M4L device that seems to work:
http://www.maxforlive.com/library/devic ... otonextbar
I'm really a beginner in M4L so I'm sure it can be improved, but so far it does what I want
Cheers, and thanks again to everyone for your help !
Moussa
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
i'll have a look next week !
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
Hi
I know, this post is one year old, but I'm very interested in an answer.
I'm using Live on stage, with Reason rewired, and I would like to change scene while keeping the sync with the main clock. By doing so, even by changing scene on the fly, my Reason instruments would be still synced to the main clock.
The solution with the m4l seems to mean, at first sight, that there is a big latency between the moment the new scene is launched and the moment it is playing in sync.
I'm searching for an instantaneous solution...
Thanks for answer
I know, this post is one year old, but I'm very interested in an answer.
I'm using Live on stage, with Reason rewired, and I would like to change scene while keeping the sync with the main clock. By doing so, even by changing scene on the fly, my Reason instruments would be still synced to the main clock.
The solution with the m4l seems to mean, at first sight, that there is a big latency between the moment the new scene is launched and the moment it is playing in sync.
I'm searching for an instantaneous solution...
Thanks for answer
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
M4L + no quantize. Should introduce a very short latency.
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
Hi, I hope you still read this, as your post is very old but did you find a solution? I also have the same problem now…
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Re: Reset metronome when launching scene
I'll try to make a m4l device tomorrow.
As far as I know, the latency when doing API calls from m4l is very bad, so it might work, but not super accurate.
As far as I know, the latency when doing API calls from m4l is very bad, so it might work, but not super accurate.
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