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Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Tarekith » Thu Nov 05, 2015 7:24 am

https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/using-push-2/

Note that it's not a seperate manual, but it's own chapter in the manual. Saw a few people were having issues finding this though, so figured I'd link it for you. WEll worth a read.

Also, here are all of the new Push 2 tutorial videos Ableton created:

https://www.ableton.com/en/help/learn-push/

Hope that helps get people up to speed, or answers any questions prospective buyers might have.

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by nutterwithbutter » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:36 pm

I don't know what it is, but after upgrading to Push2 , the difference in workflow is night and day. Its like they programmed the manual into my head without me reading it (i hardly used the original push because i was too lazy to learn it)

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Tarekith » Thu Nov 05, 2015 3:54 pm

I'll admit I agree completely. I liked Push 1 and thought the idea was solid, but I always felt like I was hunting around to find what I needed. Push 2 is dead simple on that front I think, the reorganized parameters for devices and clear way you can tell when you're in Racks, etc really makes it a lot easier to just get things done.

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by drez » Thu Nov 05, 2015 5:57 pm

Tarekith wrote:I'll admit I agree completely. I liked Push 1 and thought the idea was solid, but I always felt like I was hunting around to find what I needed. Push 2 is dead simple on that front I think, the reorganized parameters for devices and clear way you can tell when you're in Racks, etc really makes it a lot easier to just get things done.
I concur. Poking around in Push2 is actually enjoyable. On the Push1, I mainly just used the Pads and whatever parm was on the row for the knobs, or I for sure put EVERYTHING in a group so I could map the knobs. Now, I don't really mind hopping around and finding the parameters I want. I'm still fumbling a bit, but also happy accidents are teaching me along the way.
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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by ObtuseMoose » Sun Nov 15, 2015 1:04 am

Tarekith wrote:https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/using-push-2/

Note that it's not a seperate manual, but it's own chapter in the manual. Saw a few people were having issues finding this though, so figured I'd link it for you. WEll worth a read.
I hope they'll update the downloadable PDF manual soon. Chapter 28 in the currently downloadable one is still about using the APC controllers.

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Jbvdb » Tue Nov 17, 2015 1:45 pm

I am still just finding my way around push 2 but I still find myself going back to the computer out of habit from push 1
Has anyone managed to work with push with the computer stowed? Like in some machine videos?
It seems possible it would be like working on a super sweet hardware MPC type thing on steroids!

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by login » Tue Nov 17, 2015 6:08 pm

Jbvdb wrote:I am still just finding my way around push 2 but I still find myself going back to the computer out of habit from push 1
Has anyone managed to work with push with the computer stowed? Like in some machine videos?
It seems possible it would be like working on a super sweet hardware MPC type thing on steroids!

Just put the computer away and force yourself to only use push. If you keep the monitor open you will go back to it out of costume of course. There are going to be limitations using only push but it is better to ignore them, progress until you have laid down all the ideas you want and then go back to the computer for editing/mixing, etc.

Trying to overcome limitations is a distraction to actually making music, Push ha enough functionality to finish a track, that's its strenght.

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Tarpinian » Thu Nov 19, 2015 5:09 pm

login wrote: Just put the computer away and force yourself to only use push. If you keep the monitor open you will go back to it out of costume of course. There are going to be limitations using only push but it is better to ignore them, progress until you have laid down all the ideas you want and then go back to the computer for editing/mixing, etc.

Trying to overcome limitations is a distraction to actually making music, Push ha enough functionality to finish a track, that's its strenght.
This ^

Try to think of it not as a computer but as an external groove box. Take it for what it is, use Lives native devices and go to town, accept the limitations. Push 2 is light years ahead of the first version, I hated working in this mode on the first but love it on 2. Create, jam into arrange, then edit on the computer later. Replace some sounds if you want, edit, re-mix. The point is you are using the device as an instrument to get ideas that you wouldn't with the mouse and keyboard. You may just find that you want to change very little and that hyper edit perfectionist mentality mode may not even be needed.

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Jbvdb » Sat Nov 28, 2015 10:51 pm

Tarpinian wrote:
login wrote: Just put the computer away and force yourself to only use push. If you keep the monitor open you will go back to it out of costume of course. There are going to be limitations using only push but it is better to ignore them, progress until you have laid down all the ideas you want and then go back to the computer for editing/mixing, etc.

Trying to overcome limitations is a distraction to actually making music, Push ha enough functionality to finish a track, that's its strenght.
This ^

Try to think of it not as a computer but as an external groove box. Take it for what it is, use Lives native devices and go to town, accept the limitations. Push 2 is light years ahead of the first version, I hated working in this mode on the first but love it on 2. Create, jam into arrange, then edit on the computer later. Replace some sounds if you want, edit, re-mix. The point is you are using the device as an instrument to get ideas that you wouldn't with the mouse and keyboard. You may just find that you want to change very little and that hyper edit perfectionist mentality mode may not even be needed.
The only thing really stoping me from doing that is not being able to create chains in racks
And clip envelopes in audio clips I think as well
Other than that I am full steam ahead on push the second!

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by Grantos » Sat Dec 19, 2015 1:56 pm

just got mine today - amazing :)

Totally agree with previous comments, i find it easier to get around and far more pleasurable to use than Push 1.

Well done to Ableton HQ! 8)

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by uberdavis » Mon Jan 04, 2016 11:24 am

One thing that still bugs me about the Push, even in its latest incarnation, is the lack of access to Record Quantization.
I would love it if someone contradicted me!!

Edit - doh!!!!
https://www.ableton.com/en/manual/using-push/

And there it is... boom

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by 1223 STUDIOS | Push2Man » Wed Apr 06, 2016 11:20 am

nutterwithbutter wrote:I don't know what it is, but after upgrading to Push2 , the difference in workflow is night and day. Its like they programmed the manual into my head without me reading it (i hardly used the original push because i was too lazy to learn it)
I never got to use the first Push honestly I didn't know it was a thing, but Push 2 is insanely intuitive for learning a basic work flow, I can make a beat that would normally take me hours to make in 15 minutes. Its absolutely crazy.

Sometimes I think this product is from the damn future.
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Ableton Push 2 Tutorials YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCg9QPv ... BCwzHdDlKQ
Feel free to suggest a video or ask me anything I will do my best to respond

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by phil71x » Sun May 01, 2016 2:06 pm

I highly recommend this course:

Push 2 - Explained and Explored by Thavius Beck
https://youtu.be/26UkC7rr8RA

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Re: Learning Push 2 Resources

Post by phil71x » Mon May 09, 2016 6:10 pm

I stumbled upon a new video tutorial on Push 2 :
https://www.udemy.com/ableton-push-work ... roduction/


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