Push 2 display lag when drumming in Drum Rack

[fobulousguy]

So the audio is fine, but the display doesn't refresh as fast as the samples when playing the drum rack. Is this something that might be possible to correct with future updates or is this something not possible?

Hers an example: look at this video at 2:50. You can clearly see there is a display refresh lag after he hits the drum pad. This is exactly what I have. https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=GpoUtfHagA4

[salmonito]

I wonder about this too. Another video demonstrating the lag. https://youtu.be/JLWPmF27P-E?t=233

[scheffkoch]

...i wonder what would change if you'd see the waveform "faster"...when i'm drumming/playing i don't care about the sound's waveform...
i reckon this is to save cpu power...

[fobulousguy]

...i wonder what would change if you'd see the waveform "faster"...when i'm drumming/playing i don't care about the sound's waveform...
i reckon this is to save cpu power...

It wouldn't change how I drum, but it is a detail that kind of irks me. Lag is never something I'd like to see in a particular device like this.

[kirillov]

hi,
the slow display is also in the way if you wanna use FX like tweaking drum sounds quickly while playing,
i.e. tuning the pitch shift etc...

[jobinho]

Is this a bug or something fixable?

Sounds very off-putting.

[H20nly]

weak

[maky355]

I am shocked that some of you are finding this to be "lag". I mean it isn't lighting fast but certainly it is not any kind of showstopper - come on it's under second or within a second range...beside that do you look at your music when creating music or do you hear and feel it?


If your creativity depend on some kind of subsecond but not above 1ms display rendering then you are setting up yourself for a failure imho

[RDiiO]

I just purchased a push 2 today and having the same issue it's not going to stop you from using it but it is something that needs to be fixed. I contacted support with a video of the issue hopefully they'll get a firmware update out soon to fix this.

[jobinho]

I just purchased a push 2 today and having the same issue it's not going to stop you from using it but it is something that needs to be fixed. I contacted support with a video of the issue hopefully they'll get a firmware update out soon to fix this.

Please let us know what they tell you! Cheers

[RDiiO]

I just purchased a push 2 today and having the same issue it's not going to stop you from using it but it is something that needs to be fixed. I contacted support with a video of the issue hopefully they'll get a firmware update out soon to fix this.

Please let us know what they tell you! Cheers

The only response I got so far was to reset Live and see if that resolved the issue, tried it but still the same lag I made them aware that there were other users experiencing the same issue. They did say that lag issue is not normal definitely not supposed to be happening and I sent over a status report to them so hopefully this is something can get fixed quickly. I'll update when I hear back from them

[fobulousguy]

I just purchased a push 2 today and having the same issue it's not going to stop you from using it but it is something that needs to be fixed. I contacted support with a video of the issue hopefully they'll get a firmware update out soon to fix this.

Please let us know what they tell you! Cheers

The only response I got so far was to reset Live and see if that resolved the issue, tried it but still the same lag I made them aware that there were other users experiencing the same issue. They did say that lag issue is not normal definitely not supposed to be happening and I sent over a status report to them so hopefully this is something can get fixed quickly. I'll update when I hear back from them

Thanks, I'll send over a support request also. Just wanted to confirm that mine wasn't an isolated hardware issue.

[RDiiO]

Here's the reply from Ableton Support:

"Hi again,

Thanks for the reply and for providing the additional video. I checked with some colleagues about this and the behavior is actually expected. I tested as well on my own Push unit and was able to replicate your video exactly.

When using certain features in Push 2, in this case a Drum Rack containing many slices in Simplers, there is a delay added when finger drumming. In other words, when you hit a new pad, there is a short delay before the screen updates, although the pads update immediately. The reason for this is that if you are rapidly drumming the pads, and the screen updates immediately on every hit, this is much more taxing on system resources.

The slight delay ensures smoother and consistent performance.

Hopefully this isn't too inconvenient. I have gone ahead and tagged your case appropriately so the Push developers can see your feedback on this particular design element.

Let me know if you have any questions about this"

I'm hoping the developers jump on this I definitely understand it's new device new screen tons of stuff running but if there is no delay in the simpler mode when playing the pads it shouldn't be in the drumrack mode either but I know the great ableton development team is listening sure we'll see some kind of firmware update in the future to address it.

[fobulousguy]

That reply actually makes it seem like it's not going to be fixed.

[H20nly]

That reply actually makes it seem like it's not going to be fixed.

yeah, it doesn't lend itself to a sense of urgency.