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Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Citizen » Tue Nov 24, 2015 10:48 am

I'm 90% sold on Push 2, but the one thing I am concerned about is the workflow for browsing your own samples. :roll: Tarekith touches on the shortcomings of this aspect in his excellent review video:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YmpXjZrVq9c

Being that you cannot tag samples, what is the best workflow for organising/browsing your own samples?

It seems that Push can only categorise samples according to which folder they reside it. Meaning if I have a sample library that has ALL the drum samples in ONE folder, the workaround would be to create a duplicate 'Ableton Only' folder, in which I would manually create subfolders for different drum types?

Or create 128s of drum types, which was my no-so-perfect Push 1 workaround?

What is the best workflow for this?
Alternatively, do you think that we will ever see true tagging in Live?

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by molefonken » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:28 pm

bump

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by jestermgee » Tue Nov 24, 2015 12:59 pm

I've ditched the "live library" for the most part because of this and created my own. I simply use the user folder and set all my own sub folders in there for everything. I have also copied all the content from live into there and all my vest presets so no matter what format its in I can lookup drums > electronic kits and see by folder the instrument it belongs to or the sample kits I have available or the live racks... It's taken a good 12 months to build and arrange but it was worth it. Was for push 1 but the push 2 browser is so much better.

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Tarekith » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:02 pm

For my own samples I do it on my own outside of the Live library as well, that way no matter what app I'm using when I need a sample, it's all organized into folders already. And of course trimmed to include only the really good samples.

A lot of people didn't realize that, in my review, the reason I had so many samples in one folder was that's just how they are when you install live packs, and you can't change that. I got so many emails from people telling me to just sort my library and not save so many samples thinking that was my personal sample collection :lol:

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Citizen » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:08 am

Tarekith wrote:For my own samples I do it on my own outside of the Live library as well, that way no matter what app I'm using when I need a sample, it's all organized into folders already. And of course trimmed to include only the really good samples.
Hmmm…. this will require some rethinking of my sample-orgnisational strategy. I've already spent a HUGE amount of time tagging my samples for use in Maschine. :oops: Subsequently, I haven't sorted out my library in Maschine 2.0, because you have to do it all over again.

Maybe now is a good time to start…. :roll:

Moving them into new folders etc will definitely wreck all of that, along with a pretty elaborate and effective tagging methodology that enabled me to browse by several different attributes in Maschine (ie. browsing for kicks from across ALL libraries, or individual libraries).

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Citizen » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:20 am

Just so I'm clear, are you creating subfolders within various sample library folders? (ie. modifying the structure of the folder organisation from how they are structured in a commercial library/sample pack) Is that right?

I don't suppose you would be kinda enough to share a screen grab of an indicative file structure from your library Tarekith? Its a loooooong process, so i'd prefer to follow the lead from someone who has thought about this already. :)

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by jestermgee » Wed Nov 25, 2015 1:48 am

Not sure if this is a help for you but here is the library I use:

Image

It's mainly aimed at Live but I have everything in completely individual folders and even drum kits (such as battery and Live kits) I have the kits as racks for Live, Kits as just raw samples and the individual samples also further sorted into additional categories.

The whole point was if I want a sound, lets say a Clap, there are so many locations and instruments I have that a clap could live so now it's a lot easier. Maintaining this though is a challenge as any new content I have to organise into this but it's proven way more productive than just random locations and packs full of stuff and I managed to simply chuck a heap of old samples i'd never use these days.

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by kompletemail » Wed Nov 25, 2015 5:24 am

looks like you may need more cowbell.

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Post by Tarekith » Wed Nov 25, 2015 7:30 am

Image
http://postimage.org/

That's more or less how I do it. Some of those folders in the sample folder are for a specific project I'm working on right now, it's normally a bit more streamlined.

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Citizen » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:13 am

Tarekith wrote:Image
http://postimage.org/

That's more or less how I do it. Some of those folders in the sample folder are for a specific project I'm working on right now, it's normally a bit more streamlined.
Sorry, Tarekith – I don't suppose you would be able to reupload that image? (the link has expired)

Finally getting around to fixing up the sad state of my folder organisation. :roll:

(although, it worked fine for browsing tagged samples in Maschine, ahem.)

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Tarekith » Sat Feb 09, 2019 5:59 pm

Sorry, I have since trashed all my samples in an effort to start from scratch :)

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Re: Browsing your own samples - best Push 2 workflows?

Post by Citizen » Sun Feb 10, 2019 5:28 am

Tarekith wrote:Sorry, I have since trashed all my samples in an effort to start from scratch :)
Haha... :lol:

...well, I'd be very interested to hear your thoughts behind this, and of course, the organisational system you employ moving forward. 8O

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