Using M4L to show and hide plugin

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newdendrite
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Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by newdendrite » Wed Aug 09, 2017 2:50 pm

I'm using the Ableton Live AU device for Kontakt on several MIDI tracks. Each track has a different Kontakt multi-rack of synths. I need to quickly show and hide the plugin window for the active MIDI clip during a performance, and the tiny wrench icon does not work well for this. The keyboard shortcut in Ableton does not work properly until the window has already been shown.

Is there a way to control the show/hide function for plugin windows with MaxforLive? Ideally, I'd like to detect the triggering of a MIDI clip and automatically show the window.

Thanks for your help,
Michael

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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by S4racen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:07 pm

Have a look in the Live Object Model, if it's there it's possible....

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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by newdendrite » Wed Aug 09, 2017 4:25 pm

I've tried to puzzle out this information from the LOM docs, but it has gotten the best of me. There is a class for device parameters, but it's unclear whether the target function is controlled by a parameter, and unclear to me how to discover all the relevant parameters for a given device. Exploring with LOM.Navigator has not yielded anything that appears relevant, but I don't know if I am looking in all the right places.

Some of the terminology seems a bit obscure, and I haven't found an in-depth tutorial

Thanks for the guidance, though. Any hints toward a good tutorial for LOM would be appreciated.

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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by S4racen » Wed Aug 09, 2017 7:17 pm

I don't believe it's possible.

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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by newdendrite » Wed Aug 09, 2017 8:54 pm

Thanks -- I really appreciate the help.

Best regards,
Michael

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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by mothergarage » Thu Aug 10, 2017 8:33 am

The options under Live's "Preferences - Look & Feel - Plugin Windows" don't do it for you?
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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by newdendrite » Thu Aug 10, 2017 12:49 pm

No, the options in Preferences don't seem to cover opening a plugin window every time the plugin device is visible. This is what is needed in a performance.

I have "Auto-open plugin in custom editor" set, expecting that this would open the plugin every time its MIDI clip appeared in the lower panel. But it only opens a plugin window the first time the AU device dropped into the clip. If the set is saved and reopened, the window no longer opens automatically.

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Michael


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Re: Using M4L to show and hide plugin

Post by newdendrite » Tue Aug 22, 2017 1:40 am

This provided a good example for a more compact version that is useful. It does not yet open the plugin when the clip is displayed, but it does give me a larger button for showing the plugin, making performance easier. I still need to discover how to generate a bang when a clip is opened.

Thanks very much,
Michael

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