Can we get some clarification on the Terms of Service?

[j157]

I noticed some of the AppStore reviews point out the Terms of Service:

“You grant Ableton (and its Authorized Third-Parties) a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable and sublicensable, license to use, store, distribute, copy, modify, adapt, transform, reproduce, host, perform, display and communicate Your Sets including all contents and materials contained in Your Sets, without any compensation or obligation to You."

https://www.ableton.com/en/ableton-clou ... f-service/

The developer response to those reviews merely pointed out that people retain the rights to their own music. Well gee, thanks.

Still doesn’t explain what the intentions are by sneaking this into the Terms of Service, which pretty much no one reads.

Why is this in there? What are Ableton’s plans to use peoples’ music? What are third party plans in addition to Ableton’s plans?

[[jur]]

I'll try to ask around.
I highly doubt Ableton has any intention of using users' music to do anything with it, that's most probably some legal statements required because Sets can travel through internet waves to Ableton Cloud (don't quote me on this, though, this is just a guess).

[pottering]

This is the section of the Terms of Service.

4. Grant of Rights

(1) Under the condition that

a) You have registered and are holding a valid User Account; and

b) You have accepted these Terms,

Ableton grants to You a personal, limited, non-exclusive, revocable license to use Ableton Cloud in accordance with these Terms.

(2) As between You and Ableton, You retain all ownership of any intellectual property rights that You hold in Your Sets. You are solely responsible for any Sets You upload, share, or otherwise utilize on Ableton Cloud. Solely for the purpose of enabling Ableton to provide the Ableton Cloud services as contemplated herein, You grant Ableton (and its Authorized Third-Parties) a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free, transferable and sublicensable, license to use, store, distribute, copy, modify, adapt, transform, reproduce, host, perform, display and communicate Your Sets including all contents and materials contained in Your Sets, without any compensation or obligation to You.

Seems common legal lingo for cloud sharing services, to allow them to actually do the cloud sharing thing legally.


https://splice.com/terms

2. License to Your Content. Subject to any applicable account settings that you select, you grant Splice a fully paid, royalty-free, perpetual, irrevocable, worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive and fully sublicensable right (including any moral rights) and license to use, license, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publicly perform, and publicly display Your Content (in whole or in part) for the purposes of operating and providing the Service to you and to our other Users. Please remember that other Users may search for, see, use, modify and reproduce any of Your Content that you submit to any "public" area of the Service.

https://www.atlassian.com/legal/cloud-terms-of-service

Subject to these Terms, and solely to the extent necessary to provide the Cloud Products to you, you grant us a worldwide, limited term license to access, use, process, copy, distribute, perform, export, and display Your Data.

https://www.poly.com/us/en/legal/terms/ ... of-service

(a) Customer Data. Customer grants Poly an irrevocable, worldwide license to and authorizes Poly to use Customer Data as necessary for Poly to provide the Poly Cloud and engage in use and disclosure of Customer Data in accordance with the Privacy, Data Collection and Use provisions set forth below.

https://www.apple.com/legal/internet-services/icloud/

However, by submitting or posting such Content on areas of the Service that are accessible by the public or other users with whom you consent to share such Content, you grant Apple a worldwide, royalty-free, non-exclusive license to use, distribute, reproduce, modify, adapt, publish, translate, publicly perform and publicly display such Content on the Service solely for the purpose for which such Content was submitted or made available, without any compensation or obligation to you.

https://aws.amazon.com/service-terms/

You grant (i) us a non-exclusive, worldwide, perpetual, irrevocable, transferrable, sublicensable, royalty-free, and fully paid up license under all intellectual property rights to your Lumberyard Submissions, and (ii) other AWS customers the same rights to your Lumberyard Submissions as these Service Terms provide to the Lumberyard Materials.

https://docs.github.com/en/site-policy/ ... of-service

If you set your pages and repositories to be viewed publicly, you grant each User of GitHub a nonexclusive, worldwide license to use, display, and perform Your Content through the GitHub Service and to reproduce Your Content solely on GitHub as permitted through GitHub's functionality (for example, through forking).

[Tarekith]

Props for the research!