SvenH wrote: ↑Fri Jun 09, 2023 10:46 am
resequenced wrote: ↑Sat Jun 03, 2023 9:29 am
It'd be great to see the missing functionality added to the Push 3. This includes an arrangement view, being able to put together instrument racks on the Push 3 (to modify them, save them and so on)...
Say what? I have considered getting the Push 3S mainly for sound design - to create cool sounds away from the computer and then make songs with these sounds when I am back at my computer (in the arrangement view). But if I can not create and save racks on the standalone I guess it's not worth it...
Is it possible to create racks on the push controller connected to a PC without touching the mouse or keyboard?
Is there any official and complete list somewhere listing all the functionality missing from the standalone version?
https://www.ableton.com/en/push/manual/ is the Push 3 manual. Functionality not shown in that manual is likely to not be present on the device's software.
I haven't tried Push 3 in controller mode. I wouldn't expect it to be able to do something that the standalone device can't do. Push 3 in controller mode connected to the desktop Live is probably the same as the Push 3 running in standalone mode. They're both connected to Live.
Existing instrument racks can be used on the Push 3 standalone. It lets us add effects and other devices to the instrument rack. It doesn't seem possible to map the macro knobs of the instrument rack on the Push 3. It does allow us to use macro knobs already set up via presets (or in the set).
I haven't found a way to map macros or to add instruments to an instrument rack created on the Push 3 standalone.
Sound design should be possible when using the Push 3 standalone. Devices can be removed, replaced and reordered. Pressing the button below the encoder and above the device on screen will ask the user to choose where to move the device. Rotating the encoder will move the device to the right or to the left. The device's settings can be accessed one by one. It might take a bit of effort to figure out where to find something from the desktop based Live on the Push 3 standalone.
The editor of the midi clips doesn't have a copy-paste function for notes. Only double loop is available. Moving notes, adding probability, nudging, changing note length and velocity are all available. The smallest grid size available in the editor is 1/32.
My impression so far is that the available features can be used to design some sounds, to prepare some clips and do a few other things. Midi mappings and other functionality requires the desktop version of Live. The sets would have to be transferred with the desired configuration for midi, macros and everything else.
Someone who wonders how they could get by today with Push 3 standalone needs to think of their workflow. Sound design is possible. The instrument racks would have to be put together on the desktop. Longer and complex midi clips can be created. It's possible to record, copy the clip and edit it as needed to make it into what's desired.
The final song has to be arranged on the desktop Live, not on the Push 3. It has no arrangement view at all. I haven't even attempted to record synths, voice or anything else yet. I expect to run into other issues there. Bugs, missing functionality and lack of documentation will most likely to cause issues.