Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

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Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Oct 31, 2023 12:45 pm

I wanted to observe the Button Matrix. It's not possible if not grabbed ?
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by [jur] » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:35 pm

Hey Louis,

This is fixed in the current beta... but it did bring another problem: once something have been grabbed, it won't be observable as a new set is loaded, and Push needs to be rebooted.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:57 pm

And I suppose [closebang] don't work with M4L...
But as far as I know, if something has changed in the set, there must be a dialog box opening, maybe we can use this to know if we're closing a set, and then release all controls ?
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by [jur] » Tue Oct 31, 2023 9:21 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:57 pm
And I suppose [closebang] don't work with M4L...
It doesn't, indeed...
chapelier fou wrote:
Tue Oct 31, 2023 8:57 pm
But as far as I know, if something has changed in the set, there must be a dialog box opening, maybe we can use this to know if we're closing a set, and then release all controls ?
Peeddrroo tried to use this method, but to no avail afaik.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:48 am

Then we can only hope for the future.
Although I’m a bit tired of hoping.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:11 pm

Tried on the latest beta. I can indeed observe the Button_Matrix without grabbing it. But if I reload the set, the observer will not work.
It seems that I need to restart Live.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by [jur] » Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:06 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 8:11 pm
It seems that I need to restart Live.
Live, or Push. Both resets the thing.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by [jur] » Wed Nov 01, 2023 11:09 pm

chapelier fou wrote:
Wed Nov 01, 2023 7:48 am
Then we can only hope for the future.
Although I’m a bit tired of hoping.
Since this issue almost kills the M4L+Push duo, I have hope that it'll be tackled asap.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri May 10, 2024 3:33 pm

It's not been fixed yet, has it ? Seriously, wtf ??
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by [jur] » Fri May 10, 2024 4:03 pm

It's been fixed since then.
Is it not working for you?
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri May 10, 2024 4:23 pm

take this device (observes the clip matrix). Save it as a device and save a set.
Reload the set it doesn't work anymore.
Close live. Re-open live. It works.

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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Fri May 10, 2024 8:40 pm

Same thing with any control I want to observe.
First time, it works.
Then if I reload the set, it doesn't work. I have to either restart live or Push.
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon May 13, 2024 9:09 am

@[jur] Does it work on your side ??
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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by Rivanni » Mon May 13, 2024 10:52 am

Not [jur] here, but it also doesn't work for me.
The observer only sends bangs after you reload the device or project.
After a restart of Live or Push, the values are sent again.
Seems to be a general issue with the observer.

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Re: Push3 : can't observe a control without grabbing it ?

Post by chapelier fou » Mon May 13, 2024 12:13 pm

Thanks for confirming.
Isn't it crazy that no one else reports it ? I mean, it's basic functionality if you do anything custom with Push...
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