Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

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Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by allreitzreserved » Mon Jul 17, 2023 1:50 pm

Hey,

Is there a way to reset the crossfader position to the middle position through the push of a button?

Context:

I am using the crossfader in my live set to blend between the rhythmic and melodic elements of my tracks.
So all the drums, bass and percussions are on the A / left side and the melodic elements are on B / right.

I've mapped the crossfader to a midi controller (fader).
So far, so good, left and right movement works.

But for 99% of the time I just like to have the fader in the very middle. It is kind of fiddly to do this manually though. Is there a way to overwrite the position by just sending the fader in the middle via another mapping? Could both mappings (standard left-right Crossfader) and the "Reset to middle position" Mappings coexist?

Thanks a lot!

Best regards,
Chris

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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by Pitch Black » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:02 pm

Hi Chris, so Live’s crossfader is mapped to a MIDI Continuous Controller message that’s sending out a value of 0 (at full left) moving through to 127 (at full right). What you want to do is send a CC value of 63 to center the crossfader.

There are a few ways to do this.

First, what MIDI controller are you using? Many controllers can be configured to send a set CC value when a button is pressed, so let us know.

Regardless what type of MIDI control you’re using, another way is to set up what’s called a MIDI loopback, where you create a MIDI Clip in Live that sends the required CC value of 63 out of Live, and back into Live again so that Live “receives” the desired CC message. Are you on Mac or PC? I can show you how to do it on Mac, for PC I believe you can use a third party software to set this up.

So yeah it’s totally doable, let us know what gear you’re using and we’ll get you going.
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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by allreitzreserved » Tue Jul 18, 2023 10:28 am

Hey Pitch Black,

Thanks for getting back to me!

I'm using a Faderfox UC4, it would be great to be able to assign one of the buttons to reset the fader position. The UC4 is fully programmable, so I guess it should be possible to send out a specific CC value.

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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by Pitch Black » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:33 am

Absolutely! Faderfox are some of the most programmable controllers out there! My band uses a PC12 and MX12 ganged together as a mixing desk, see the pic below, on the Dub Channel at far left there's a button surrounded by yellow tape marked RESET that does what it says on the tin after we've bent the desk out of shape in the heat of battle :)

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So, you'll need to find out what CC the faderfox is using for the crossfader, and program a button accordingly...

Enter MIDI mapping mode in Live and open Live's browser, then click on Live's crossfader. The browser will highlight which MIDI channel and CC number is mapped to the crossfader.

Have a look at the UC4 manual page 8 and 9, you'll want to program a button to send a value of 63 on that MIDI channel and CC number. With the UC4's buttons being able to send different values for press and release, set both the press and release values to 63.

It's been ages since we programmed our Faderfoxes, and I know the programming of them is sometimes not the most intuative (they're so... German :lol: ) I hope this is some help!
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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by chapelier fou » Tue Jul 18, 2023 11:40 am

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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by allreitzreserved » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:34 pm

Thank you very much!
Got it working with both solutions!

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Re: Reset Crossfader to Middle Position

Post by braduro » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:59 am

Also, I do believe the center section of the x-fader highlights with it's own key command if you are not averse to a key binding.
I use "[\]" for "left right center"
I forget whether this center portion appears for midi assignment as well...

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