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ebbes
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Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:22 am

Hello guys,

does anyone tries to setup a Push Standalone with the Maschine+?
I am not sure if its work with link. After a few tries i was able to trigger some sounds or instruments.
But i can’t start the M+. I have to start it manually.

Does anyone have experience with it?
Is the link function only working with a computer in this case or can the PUSH see the M+ ?

kreativsein
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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by kreativsein » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:25 am

Maschine+ has Ableton Link integrated
settings -> MIDI -> enable Link

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:42 am

Thank you for your reply. I’ve tried it successfully but I can’t start any clip in Maschine.

This is the reason why I asked if link works only with a device like an iPad or computer.

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by [jur] » Sat Dec 30, 2023 12:27 pm

ebbes wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 5:22 am
I have to start it manually.
Maybe it just doesn't offer the sync start option (i don't have the M+)?
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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by zenkick » Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:10 pm

ebbes wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:42 am
Thank you for your reply. I’ve tried it successfully but I can’t start any clip in Maschine.
I've confirmed:

- Push sends pos/start/stop/clock over MIDI and link.
- Maschine+ can receive note data from Push.
- Maschine+ will sync to Link or MIDI.
- Maschine+ does not support Link start/stop.

However, I can not get Maschine+ to act on pos/start/stop over MIDI.

There is no mention of external transport control in the M+ manual, and only anecdotal online evidence that it works.

A theoretical workaround would be to convert external midi transport to an analog relay and use a pedal input on the M+ to trigger start/stop.
Suite, Push 1, Push 2, Push Standalone

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:15 pm

zenkick wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 2:10 pm
ebbes wrote:
Sat Dec 30, 2023 9:42 am
Thank you for your reply. I’ve tried it successfully but I can’t start any clip in Maschine.
I've confirmed:

- Push sends pos/start/stop/clock over MIDI and link.
- Maschine+ can receive note data from Push.
- Maschine+ will sync to Link or MIDI.
- Maschine+ does not support Link start/stop.

However, I can not get Maschine+ to act on pos/start/stop over MIDI.

There is no mention of external transport control in the M+ manual, and only anecdotal online evidence that it works.

A theoretical workaround would be to convert external midi transport to an analog relay and use a pedal input on the M+ to trigger start/stop.
Yes you’re right. I see it exactly the same way.
i'll write to support. i don't think there's a problem with the push controller

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by 102455 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:36 pm

If the idea is to have both starting at the same time, why not start the Push from the Maschine, rather than starting the Maschine from the Push?

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Sat Dec 30, 2023 6:46 pm

I will try it now that way. Maybe Maschine must be the master in this case.

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by 102455 » Sat Dec 30, 2023 7:15 pm

On second thoughts, I suppose if M+ doesn't have a new enough implementation of Link, it's not going to work in either direction.

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by kreativsein » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:08 am


ebbes
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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:53 am

kreativsein wrote:
Sun Dec 31, 2023 10:08 am
here we go :(

https://community.native-instruments.co ... start-stop
Yes I saw this yesterday. Now i use a MIDI connection.
In my case the MIDI Clock works fine. It jumps a little bit but when i start drums on both devices they are synced. It is acceptable.
Maybe they work on a solution for this. But the MIDI connection is definitely useful.

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by JollyDodger » Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:06 pm

Out of interest how are you routing the audio?

I’ve got a gen1 babyface on my M+ (drums and bass) outputing adat, and x4 analogue outputs from the push (melody, stabs, samples) that all go into a umc1820 and then I mix it all on an iPad in Drambo (planning to a get an interface with two adat inputs, so I can use an all digital path from the push)

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Re: Standalone with NI Maschine+

Post by ebbes » Thu Jan 04, 2024 6:14 pm

JollyDodger wrote:
Thu Jan 04, 2024 4:06 pm
Out of interest how are you routing the audio?

I’ve got a gen1 babyface on my M+ (drums and bass) outputing adat, and x4 analogue outputs from the push (melody, stabs, samples) that all go into a umc1820 and then I mix it all on an iPad in Drambo (planning to a get an interface with two adat inputs, so I can use an all digital path from the push)
I don’t have an adat interface at the moment.
The audio output from the M+ goes in the P3.

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