Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

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lapieuvre
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Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

Post by lapieuvre » Wed Feb 21, 2024 1:57 pm

Hi,

I have had this issue for many years now (I think this behavior came in Live 10)

My Live sets have many tracks, I generally work with 32 to 64 audio outputs, around 50 to 120 tracks.

I always start programming a show in Arrangement View, then when I'm close to opening, I transfer everything to Session View. During this process, I have to keep stuff in Arrangement View, meaning the tempo map is still there. I generally cut my music every 4 or 8 bars, so I have multiple cues for rehearsal purposes.

Now what happens when I do this, is every scene change I hear a small glitch, the sound is not fluid. If I delete everything in Arrangement View, (including tempo map) then my session view is fluid, glitch free.

Current workaround : set the Latency to 2048 Samples, then session view is fluid.

IDEALLY I would keep the tempo maps in Arrangement view, so If I need to do an edit, it is fast. But unfortunately I have to delete everything in arrangement View, so I can run proper rehearsals.

Hope this gets fixed at some point !
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Re: Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

Post by [jur] » Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:53 am

Have you ever reported this to Support?
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Re: Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

Post by lapieuvre » Thu Feb 22, 2024 12:33 pm

[jur] wrote:
Thu Feb 22, 2024 1:53 am
Have you ever reported this to Support?
Yes, about 4 years ago...
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Re: Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

Post by [jur] » Thu Feb 22, 2024 3:47 pm

That's probably worth reporting again then...
Is it always happening, or only with specific sets?
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Re: Glitches in Session view when tempo map in arrangement

Post by chapelier fou » Fri Feb 23, 2024 12:01 am

Following this topic.
By « tempo map » do you mean tempo automation in the master track ?
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