Macros with proper units of measurement

[spiritofeden]

Many VST3 plug-ins properly communicate the units of measurement for parameters to Live. Indeed, both the Configure section of a loaded plug-in and Push show the correct units.

However, once you map a parameter to a rack macro, it shows up as a generic MIDI (0-127) value. It seems it should be fairly trivial to implement this (after all, it works for stock devices).

[S4racen]

No it wouldn't be a trivial amount of work, as the VST may well be set to enum's as a value which is not modulatable in Live.

Cheers
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[spiritofeden]

Can you clarify what you mean? See the right hand side of my screenshot: units of measurement are correctly displayed in the "Configure" section. The same values could be shown below the macro knobs. What am I missing that makes this problematic?

[[jur]]

I'm not a dev so I've absolutely if this is trivial or not, but I'm moving this to the FW forum

[The Rabbits]

One reason it's not so simple is that you can map several controls to one macro. Different controls with different units and ranges.
What units should it show then?

[spiritofeden]

One reason it's not so simple is that you can map several controls to one macro. Different controls with different units and ranges.
What units should it show then?

Just like with stock Ableton devices: switch to showing a generic integer value only at that point.

[[jur]]

One reason it's not so simple is that you can map several controls to one macro. Different controls with different units and ranges.
What units should it show then?

Well, we could have an option to pick the one we prefer when multiple param are mapped.

[The Rabbits]

Not saying it's impossible, but there are complications.

[justchris86]

Most VST's actually out put 0. - 1.
if your throw a vst into max for live you can see what the VST is actually outputting
Percentages, enums etc are more for the user and less easy to just transfer over.

A quick work around I use is to to set up presets in your rack the %'s or values that you are going to want to use the most.

[spiritofeden]

You might be referring to VST2. All of the VST3s I can think of communicate the units (and you can see that in the Configure panel within Ableton). They even show up correctly on Push. The problem shows up once you assign them to Ableton macros.