tip: building racks with an equal loudness dry/wet control

[ciw]

OK, I had a problem, I just solved it a little clumsily, so thought I'd share ... maybe someone will find this helpful or maybe someone will tell me a better way

I have a big fx rack. I wanted a dry/wet control to bypass the entire thing. So, add a second chain for the dry signal and do some midi mapping.

Sadly, when you map the gains for each rack chain to midi, the effect is a dry/wet control that is louder at 0% and 100% then in the middle at 50%. Same with using utility.

EDIT: SEE THE NEXT POST FOR THE REAL ANSWER TO THIS ONE. I learned something today

(My previous solution was this: drop a resonators plugin onto the end of both the dry chain and the wet chain. Turn of all the resonators and the filter so no sound actually comes out when set to 100% wet, the original sound comes out at 100% dry and almost no cpu is used. Now we can hijack the dry/wet fader curve from the resonator plugin - map the d/w of both resonator plugs to a rack parameter. Finally invert the range of one of them (the one on your wet channel).

That's what I got anyway and it works. Another solution may be to hijack the pan controls of some tracks, but this would involve adding more tracks so am avoiding this.)

Hope that's of use to somebody, and if anyone can think of a better way please let me know

[hoffman2k]

With a thread named like this, don't mind me sharing the link to a similar tip I wrote using a slightly more configurable solution.

http://www.thecovertoperators.org/archives/70

I believe in using the chain selector over the resonator plugin.

[ciw]

Ok, respect. hoffman2k's technique is way better. Didn't know you could do that, teach me not to read the manual for live 6

[SeanPorio]

17 years later and this tip saved me! Thank so much!

[scg]

17 years later and this tip saved me! Thank so much!

Which technique did you use? The one posted by hoffman2k? (That link doesn't seem to be working at the moment.)

[[nednerb]]

17 years later and this tip saved me! Thank so much!

Which technique did you use? The one posted by hoffman2k? (That link doesn't seem to be working at the moment.)

I'm not sure about the Covert Operators' technique (but I remember their presets in 2006-2007!)

I did it this way (my video is still up from 15 years ago, haha):

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xYQiMtx9tXk

Basic idea applies I am sure, but there is even more functionality possible with chains, nowadays!