Hold function in Sampler?

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FerFer
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Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Mon Oct 21, 2024 9:52 pm

Hello Live Users,
I apologize if this is a beginners question. In sampler, is there any way to trigger a sample and then let it hold without continuously pressing the key down? Similar to "sustain" in GarageBand?

I found this function in Simpler, but only in the OneShot mode, which doesn't serve me.

I'm preparing for a live set and I would really like to use Ableton this time, since the FX are so much better...

Many thanks!

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by [jur] » Tue Oct 22, 2024 1:10 am

Use the Sustain pedal/CC64
Or use Note Length's Latch mode (this feature is only available since L12 though)
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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Tue Oct 22, 2024 10:56 am

Great, the Note Length Latch function is what I need. Now is there a possibility to make it polyphonic (4 voices)? Or would you know a workaround?

I'd like to play long drone chords (4 voices), where I slowly change the harmony one by one by pressing a new key (so when I press the 5th key, it forgets the 1st etc).
In between I want to be hands free / "feet free", so I can play other instruments.

Many thanks!

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by doubleUG » Tue Oct 22, 2024 12:00 pm

copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Tue Oct 22, 2024 9:48 pm

Wow thank you for custom-building this, if I see correctly?!! What an amazing community! <3

I have the problem that an "All Note Off" command is triggered immediately after I press a key, so I only hear short clicks. Is there maybe an easy fix for this? I'm just starting to dive deeper into Live, no skills in Max programming yet...

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by doubleUG » Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:59 am

No it´t not custom build, I made this years ago.
Tests with notes from Live works as expected. Note Off are send when Start/Stop Live, changing the Voice Number and after X Bars form last note on (except when when Max Bars is 0).

The "Voice Number" slider sets the max Voices.
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

FerFer
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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:17 pm

doubleUG wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 11:59 am
No it´t not custom build, I made this years ago.
Tests with notes from Live works as expected. Note Off are send when Start/Stop Live, changing the Voice Number and after X Bars form last note on (except when when Max Bars is 0).

The "Voice Number" slider sets the max Voices.

Thanks for sharing it anyway!

I think I got the settings right, but somehow it's still clicking. Both with Sampler and with Drift.
I've uploaded a video how it's behaving on my system: https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/78gkmz91 ... xabu0&dl=0
I have Live 12.1. Could that be the reason?

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by doubleUG » Wed Oct 23, 2024 5:35 pm

I am on Live 12.1 so that should not be the reason. The device is not made for MPE. With what are you playing the notes? Does this happen when you use lives midi clip?

you can also try to edit the device, and disconnect the cable from
"t b l l l" to "p Delay"
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

doubleUG
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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by doubleUG » Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:13 pm

I uploaded a new version that should fix it.
copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

FerFer
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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Thu Oct 24, 2024 12:44 pm

doubleUG wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:13 pm
I uploaded a new version that should fix it.
Yesss, it works! Thank you so much, this is a game changer for my setup!!

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Sun Nov 03, 2024 3:25 pm

doubleUG wrote:
Wed Oct 23, 2024 6:13 pm
I uploaded a new version that should fix it.
Would it be possible to make the "All Notes Off" button MIDI-assignable? (so I could assign a pad to it)
I'm not into Max programming yet and don't know how to do it myself.

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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by doubleUG » Sun Nov 03, 2024 6:29 pm

copy the text, open Live > drag in empty M4L device > open Max editor > paste > save M4L device
https://docs.cycling74.com/max8/vignett ... ng_patches

https://doubleUG.bandcamp.com/releases

FerFer
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Re: Hold function in Sampler?

Post by FerFer » Sun Nov 03, 2024 8:38 pm

Thanks so much! Highly appreciated.

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