Strategies for performing large projects on Push 3

[apalomba]

Hey folks, I am trying to convert my live set to run on the Push 3.

I use a lot of VST sample libraries that would of course not be able to run on Push3. My first attempt would probably be to bounce everything to stems and just play the audio. But I use a lot of MaxForLive generative sequencers that create the notes in realm time, so that it sounds natural and do not repeat.

The problem is when you bounce everything to stems you loose the improvised generative aspect of the song and it keeps repeating. I would rather convert my VST sample library to a bare bones simpler instrument that only samples one articulation of a VST sample library.

Do you guys know of an easy way to convert or automate the creation of a Ableton sampled instrument from a 3rd party VST library?

[apalomba]

Surely someone has wondered about this. You can not run VSTs on Push3, so how can I still create a generative set?
Is there an easy way to create a Live simpler instrument by sampling a VST?

[analog_rome]

Make a midi clip playing each midi note 0-127, spaced out enough to capture the full decay
Record the clip into a sample, make sure the sample length is the exact length of one note x128
Make a sampler instrument with 128 slices

[apalomba]

Is there a software tool that can automate this process?

[analog_rome]

I'm not aware of one.
But once you have the sample recorded and at the proper length you can right click it to get to the sampler conversion. That part is quick and easy once you've found it.
And of course reuse the same midi clip to record each different synth patch.

[apalomba]

So I did find something. In Logic Pro there is a VST called Auto Sampler. With it you can load a VST and it will create a sampled instrument from it. This video demos it...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5IrYOonSAJg

[Rivanni]

If you cannot use Logic, this free Max device called Resampler can be helpful. It basically does the same as Logic's AutoSampler.
I tested it in the Live 12.2 beta, and it still works.

[dougtheguy]

I have had the same problem enough that I just stopped using VSTs. The Ableton library is amazing but it does have holes. I use native packs made for Ableton from Pure Magnetik etc. to help fill them. There are more MAX devices coming out all the time that work on SA.
A while back I also used a Universal Audio interface with a ton of plugins from them. One day I decided to just cut the cord. I was so glad after it was over that I decided to go all the way. I never looked back.

[CH7]

I wonder, would the Push work with an external VST player?

There are devices you can load VSTs into. I think Mackie did one, or you could use a Surface Pro,
or even a tiny touch Pc. Is this idea a goer?