Ableton Live 12 / Mixing Mastering (Main Volume Problems)

[cooper92]

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Hey i got a Problem: I turned down the Main Volume so that i can better Mix but the Kick and Snare stays overloaded . How can i fix this Problem. 1 Bass is also to loud and overtuned. I want that all senses are default or quieter Volume like i did on MAIN. Pls need Help

Edit: When i export the Senses for Stems its overtuned but just some of them with the yellow buttons

[RobrechtV]

Main volume is your mix, not your individual channels. Turn down all channels for some more headroom. Or you could turn down the output of whatever devices you're using for that kick and snare.

[cooper92]

How i can turn them down without loosing quality

[cooper92]

Just turn down gain and output?

[make]

You should learn about gain staging: on each of those tracks, are you pushing each component, adding amplitude with each stage, or is it just that you have the channel volumes up too much and haven't really 'mixed' them?

On each channel, if you push the maximum volume from the source into the next component (effect, plugin, etc) that will affect the character of the sound as well as its overall gain. The result of that plugin can itself effect the amplitude so with each plugin/effect in that chain, you could be adding +3dB so by the end when it gets to the channel mixer after 3 effects/utilties, you've added +9dB for example.

You may be deliberately driving a hot signal into the first effect because you want a specific characteristic on the sound but then you have to compensate on the output as it will likely add its own gain.

Try first with lowering all the channels on the mixer so it takes them below 0dB then check each channel that youre not adding gain at each stage.

[RobrechtV]

How i can turn them down without loosing quality

Simply turning down the faders for the individual channels (the little black triangles, just like the main volume fader) won't have any effect on quality. That's what those faders are for: how else were you going to mix?



In general, gain staging is important because some effects react differently depending on how hard you "push" them. So you have to think about where in the chain you turn up the volume to reach the final loudness you want. Do you turn up the volume before a distortion effect or after? The final volume may be the same, but in the first case you'll have a more distorted sound and in the second case it will be cleaner. It just depends on what you want.

However, for you, this only matters if you have any effects on your master channel. If there is, for example, a compressor on your master, it will react differently to lower volume channels coming in: in that case, you may have to lower the threshold on your master compressor. But if your master has no effects, there will be absolutely no change in your sound.