Is there any way...

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
Post Reply
Daniel Dytrych
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:39 am
Location: England
Contact:

Is there any way...

Post by Daniel Dytrych » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:15 pm

to stop the jerking when you slow down a track when it's warped? It doesn't sound smooth. Is there any way to slightly slow down the speed to correct the speed when the tracks come slightly off?

Please help.

Daniel.

ebenextra
Posts: 84
Joined: Fri May 06, 2005 9:12 am
Location: Taipei

jerking?

Post by ebenextra » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:48 pm

Are you jerking or the sound???

Give us some specifics... How much are you slowing the track down???

Maybe try a different warp mode.
...silly rabbit ,leave the tricks for the cats!

difference
Posts: 272
Joined: Mon Jun 27, 2005 10:36 pm

Re: Is there any way...

Post by difference » Sun Oct 23, 2005 3:51 pm

Daniel Dytrych wrote:Is there any way to slightly slow down the speed to correct the speed when the tracks come slightly off?

Maybe just me, but I can't work out what you mean by that at all.


Can you try and explain what you mean by:

1) Slow down the speed to correct the speed

and

2) tracks come slightly off


In another way? Not trying to be rude, I'd try to help if I knew what you meant and I imagine others are the same!

Daniel Dytrych
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:39 am
Location: England
Contact:

Post by Daniel Dytrych » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:51 am

Forget what I said there. Anyway, when I slow down a track from 100bpm to 83bpm, the track looses it's quality. It starts to sound out of time. It's hard to explain. It's like the track isn't running smooth. How do I stop this. Also, how do I monitor 2 tracks at once through the headphones?

That's all.

Thanks,
Daniel.

hambone1
Posts: 5346
Joined: Fri Feb 04, 2005 8:31 pm
Location: Abu Dhabi

Post by hambone1 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 10:05 am

Check that you're warping in complex mode, that the track is properly warped, and that you're not pushing your CPU too hard. Slowing down from 100 to 83bpm should be no problem with an indistinguishable reduction in quality.

Sometimes timing will sound completely different if the original track 'grooves' instead of being tightly quantized. This is especially true of free-style hip-hop stuff that only seems to sound correct rhythmically at the original tempo.

Daniel Dytrych
Posts: 60
Joined: Thu Mar 17, 2005 11:39 am
Location: England
Contact:

Post by Daniel Dytrych » Mon Oct 24, 2005 3:22 pm

Thanks, Hambone. I will try this now. I know it's not my cpu because the meter reads 5%.

Daniel.

the dark wizard
Posts: 244
Joined: Thu May 19, 2005 9:10 am
Location: Glasgow

Post by the dark wizard » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:04 pm

is it not because ableton preserves the pitch like a master tempo, maybe you could turn this function off?

jerry123
Posts: 300
Joined: Wed Oct 12, 2005 3:26 am
Location: Toronto Ont. Canada

Post by jerry123 » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:18 pm

Perhaps he is referring to the buffer crackle when changing tempo?
I know that if I go from 100 to 83 with any loop playing, it crackles while changing the tempo, once the tempo is set, the clip plays smooth.
Is that it? If so I, as well, would like some insight.

ryansupak
Posts: 429
Joined: Wed Aug 18, 2004 7:23 pm

Post by ryansupak » Mon Oct 24, 2005 9:22 pm

I think there are two aspects to this:

1) The buffer "crackle" noise.

and

2) The "out of time" sound. I think this is because it takes a few fractions of a second to recalculate in order to render at the new speed, if the tempo change imposed is at a rate of over ~3 BPM per beat.

The result is that, for a period of a split second, a track may run faster or slower than the global tempo indicated it should.

I don't know a workaround for this -- maybe increase the Clip Update rate to make it less noticeable?

hth,
rs

Post Reply