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Post by noisetonepause » Mon May 01, 2006 9:45 am

forge wrote:come on, tell us, what will it do?
Make sure you never have trouble with your computer again!

(Unless you decide to put things back on your hard drive, that is)
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by gomi » Mon May 01, 2006 1:41 pm

forge wrote:
noisetonepause wrote:
"sudo rm -r /"

Type in your password at the prompt. The security holes have now been patched. Thank you for shopping.
And people would fall for it. And people who fall for it deserve it. This is not 'Nam, this is computing, and there are rules... and if people don't follow them, they may get hurt..
come on, tell us, what will it do?[/quote]

more fun to do rm -Rf

that way you get all the folders too

i work at a school, and let me tell you it is SO SO satisfying to
WIPE out all the students folders on ALL the drives
on ALL THE computers ALL at once with ard and good old rm -Rf *

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Post by Pitch Black » Mon May 01, 2006 10:13 pm

gomi wrote: i work at a school, and let me tell you it is SO SO satisfying to
WIPE out all the students folders on ALL the drives
on ALL THE computers ALL at once with ard and good old rm -Rf *


so -Rf * = Really fucked, then? :D

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Post by gomi » Mon May 01, 2006 10:48 pm

Pitch Black wrote:
gomi wrote: i work at a school, and let me tell you it is SO SO satisfying to
WIPE out all the students folders on ALL the drives
on ALL THE computers ALL at once with ard and good old rm -Rf *


so -Rf * = Really fucked, then? :D

man rm

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Post by shaneblyth » Tue May 02, 2006 12:08 am

dam my mac is permanently hooked to the net with no anitspyware or virus protection for the last 18 months
I am really scred now !.. Hey just checked.. what no virus on my machine ? why not ? tell me why not ? this is not fair..
Now 6 seconds is the world record to hook XP to the net with no antivirus and get infected.. I am still waiting at 18 months

Now where is the comparison guys ? There is none.
It is like the bird fly... it has to mutate to humans but it hasn't yet .. when we get a real virus that can infect my machine please let me know but this is just so much talk it is very silly and in the REAL WORLD scores a big fat zero.

All of those with no antivirus and a Mac related virus please reply ..
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Post by noisetonepause » Tue May 02, 2006 8:28 pm

gomi wrote:more fun to do rm -Rf

that way you get all the folders too
man rm wrote: -f Attempt to remove the files without prompting for confirma-
tion, regardless of the file's permissions. If the file does
not exist, do not display a diagnostic message or modify the
exit status to reflect an error. The -f option overrides any
previous -i options.
...

-R Attempt to remove the file hierarchy rooted in each file
argument. The -R option implies the -d option. If the -i
option is specified, the user is prompted for confirmation
before each directory's contents are processed (as well as
before the attempt is made to remove the directory). If the
user does not respond affirmatively, the file hierarchy
rooted in that directory is skipped.

-r Equivalent to -R.
...
Suit #1: I mean, have you got any insight as to why a bright boy like this would jeopardize the lives of millions?
Suit #2: No, sir, he says he does this sort of thing for fun.

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Post by nolus » Tue May 02, 2006 8:47 pm

shaneblyth wrote:dam my mac is permanently hooked to the net with no anitspyware or virus protection for the last 18 months
I am really scred now !.. Hey just checked.. what no virus on my machine ? why not ? tell me why not ? this is not fair..
Now 6 seconds is the world record to hook XP to the net with no antivirus and get infected.. I am still waiting at 18 months

Now where is the comparison guys ? There is none.
It is like the bird fly... it has to mutate to humans but it hasn't yet .. when we get a real virus that can infect my machine please let me know but this is just so much talk it is very silly and in the REAL WORLD scores a big fat zero.

All of those with no antivirus and a Mac related virus please reply ..
how do you know you haven't got a virus?
"That very perceptive of you Mr Stapleton, and rather unexpected... in a G Major"

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Post by shaneblyth » Wed May 03, 2006 2:08 am

nolus wrote:
shaneblyth wrote:dam my mac is permanently hooked to the net with no anitspyware or virus protection for the last 18 months
I am really scred now !.. Hey just checked.. what no virus on my machine ? why not ? tell me why not ? this is not fair..
Now 6 seconds is the world record to hook XP to the net with no antivirus and get infected.. I am still waiting at 18 months

Now where is the comparison guys ? There is none.
It is like the bird fly... it has to mutate to humans but it hasn't yet .. when we get a real virus that can infect my machine please let me know but this is just so much talk it is very silly and in the REAL WORLD scores a big fat zero.

All of those with no antivirus and a Mac related virus please reply ..
how do you know you haven't got a virus?
I am a computer technition.. I dont have a virus.. I did have a virus scanner on for 6 months for a laugh.. kept it up to date and it never ever found one. I know this is hard for PC users to get.. I use both systems daily so It took me a while to realise what the real story is..
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Post by studio615 » Wed May 03, 2006 2:39 am

For those keeping score:
win:114396 (approx.)
mac: 1

I'll keep my powerbook thank you.

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Post by MrYellow » Wed May 03, 2006 3:52 am

PC: 98%
Mac: 2% (if that)

MS haters: heaps
Mac haters: practically none

Hackers who use open source and won't attack any Unix based systems: most

There are craploads of old virii for Atari ST.... If I hooked it up to the net I
wouldn't get any tho, no one writes worms for OS's no one uses.

-Ben

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Post by rbmonosylabik » Wed May 03, 2006 4:37 am

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Post by smutek » Wed May 03, 2006 4:39 am

If Goodin wanted to be reasonable or accurate, he could have written a story titled “Some Guy Double-Clicked a Trojan Horse Virus for Mac OS X but It Didn’t Actually Spread to Anyone Else”, but what kind of story would that be? OK, it’d be a true story, but it wouldn’t be a good story.
heh.

Nice link gomi. Thanks.

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Post by MrYellow » Wed May 03, 2006 5:18 am

Who exactly is touting the Mac as “immune to such risks”? Goodin doesn’t
say, but his word is good enough for me. I’m sure whoever they are,
they’re experts.

I, on the other hand, had never been under the impression that the Mac
was either magically or technically “immune” or “invulnerable” to viruses,
Trojan horses, spyware, adware, malware, and so forth.
Daines’s uninformed opinion that Macs were “invulnerable” to such attacks
indicates that he believed it was safe to download and open any random
file from the Internet,
Good to see someone living in the real-world :-)

-Ben

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Post by nolus » Wed May 03, 2006 6:42 am

shaneblyth wrote: .. kept it up to date and it never ever found one. I know this is hard for PC users to get....
Not really, I've been using PC's for 15 years and never once got infected by a virus. I used to routinely receive dodgy looking emails, but never felt tempted to run the attachments.

just keep the system patched, don't run programs from doubtfull sources and don't visit dodgy web sites. Also working through a router with ip address translation kills 99 % of all known web based attacks - dead.

There really is no need for anyone to get a virus unless they are either lazy or stupid. On any platform.
"That very perceptive of you Mr Stapleton, and rather unexpected... in a G Major"

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