Getting that 'old school' 12Bit Sound!?
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Getting that 'old school' 12Bit Sound!?
I don't have an MPC60II, or an Akai s950...or a bunch of outboard gear...
I do have Live 5 & Guru...
But I want that 12 Bit sampled drum sound...the Kruntch of the golden age of Hip hop.
Got the Vinyl
Got the turntable
...What's the best way to sample into my computer and get that sound?
Mashing the sounds with bitcrusher and the ilk, just doesn't cut it it my opinion.
I'd like an old school sampler, or a software equivalent. Is there a good drum sampler that'll let me sample at lower bit rate or even replicate the algorthyms of these classic machines?
Or do I have to buy an s950?
...or a good sampler/rompler with a stack of 12 Bit drum samples...?
Help.
J
I do have Live 5 & Guru...
But I want that 12 Bit sampled drum sound...the Kruntch of the golden age of Hip hop.
Got the Vinyl
Got the turntable
...What's the best way to sample into my computer and get that sound?
Mashing the sounds with bitcrusher and the ilk, just doesn't cut it it my opinion.
I'd like an old school sampler, or a software equivalent. Is there a good drum sampler that'll let me sample at lower bit rate or even replicate the algorthyms of these classic machines?
Or do I have to buy an s950?
...or a good sampler/rompler with a stack of 12 Bit drum samples...?
Help.
J
PC Laptop & Intel Macbook, Presonus Firebox, Echo Indigo DJ, MPC 2500, Planet Phatt, Xiosynth, microX, Kontrol 49, Live 6, Reason 4, Guru, ASS Modeling Collection, Pro53, Oddity, Fender Telecaster, an old acoustic guitar, Some mics, my sister's voice...
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Well Yes...But I'll never be able to get one of those
...but with all my heart YES, that's the sound...
Is it just going to be impossible to replicate the sp 1200, mpc60II sound...anyone...!
...but with all my heart YES, that's the sound...
Is it just going to be impossible to replicate the sp 1200, mpc60II sound...anyone...!
PC Laptop & Intel Macbook, Presonus Firebox, Echo Indigo DJ, MPC 2500, Planet Phatt, Xiosynth, microX, Kontrol 49, Live 6, Reason 4, Guru, ASS Modeling Collection, Pro53, Oddity, Fender Telecaster, an old acoustic guitar, Some mics, my sister's voice...
ummm... redux??? It is a bit reducer plug that's built into live after all. Decimator is free, does the same thing. My advice if you want dirty lofi drums is sequence a kit, play it from your comp into something like a crap old mixer or amplifier to colour the sound, resample back into live, but record the signal path at a lower volume (so that when you turn up the amplitude in the mix you raise the noise floor with the signal), then run it through redux at 12 bit and render to wave. Chop it up and toss in a sampler- bam nasty lo fi drum samples, nice and full of grit and life (fuck 192 khz pristine pretty shit). Another good thing to do is take the dry drum kit and run it through different reverbs and out board gear (i'm not talking about expensive rackmount stuff, but rather beat up guitar amps with a buzz, old tape players from the thrift store, crappy stereo amps, vcr's- shit like that), so that all the different drums have their own individual character- much like old sampled drum kits that have been composed from record dips from different records- you want the tails intakt and sometimes the attack of other instruments that were in the mix, so try adding different elements from other processed samples in layers. It can be a meticulous process, but your stuff will be so much better. It won't suffer from cold drum machine syndrome (I kind of like that sometimes though). Hope that helps!
ya. get creative with your signal man, bring it to the outside and run it through anything you can put a signal through, record everything along the way and you should have a decent collection of beat-up drum shots recorded to wav. which you can of course further mangle with computer effects, till you find what you like.Louis wrote:ummm... redux??? It is a bit reducer plug that's built into live after all. Decimator is free, does the same thing. My advice if you want dirty lofi drums is sequence a kit, play it from your comp into something like a crap old mixer or amplifier to colour the sound, resample back into live, but record the signal path at a lower volume (so that when you turn up the amplitude in the mix you raise the noise floor with the signal), then run it through redux at 12 bit and render to wave. Chop it up and toss in a sampler- bam nasty lo fi drum samples, nice and full of grit and life (fuck 192 khz pristine pretty shit). Another good thing to do is take the dry drum kit and run it through different reverbs and out board gear (i'm not talking about expensive rackmount stuff, but rather beat up guitar amps with a buzz, old tape players from the thrift store, crappy stereo amps, vcr's- shit like that), so that all the different drums have their own individual character- much like old sampled drum kits that have been composed from record dips from different records- you want the tails intakt and sometimes the attack of other instruments that were in the mix, so try adding different elements from other processed samples in layers. It can be a meticulous process, but your stuff will be so much better. It won't suffer from cold drum machine syndrome (I kind of like that sometimes though). Hope that helps!
CamelPhat has some good noise-inducing, harmonic-creating bit-reducing features.
Awright Bawjaws, that smells lovely son, gies a wee taste!
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