Live 5 and Novation Automap

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Thu May 18, 2006 10:29 pm

glitchrock-buddha wrote:
LOFA wrote:
Edit: For example, why does my template seem to randomly switch back from #35 to #40?
Ya this is what I was talking about. The LCD display reverts to template 40 (Ableton Automap) whenever you switch to another template. The knobs/sliders still control the template that you switched to btw, it just doesn't display the right things. To fix this, you either go into preferences and de-select the midi output from ableton, or you can hit the play button like I said, which makes the proper names appear on the LCD for the template you changed it to, but just for a second though.

grb

Ah hah! Thanks!

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri May 19, 2006 12:11 am

What are people using to carry your SL and lappie around?

My 17" lappie came in last week, the Novation bag spec says it won't hold a 17", I might go check out the M-Audio bag over at Robotspeak, or just keep using the wheeled carry on suitcase I've been using.

kennerb · Post by **kennerb** » Fri May 19, 2006 7:00 pm

DeadlyKungFu wrote:What are people using to carry your SL and lappie around?

My 17" lappie came in last week, the Novation bag spec says it won't hold a 17", I might go check out the M-Audio bag over at Robotspeak, or just keep using the wheeled carry on suitcase I've been using.

All my gear gets put into old leather or vinyl luggage. It's inconspicuous and makes me look uber hip.

$2 -$5 at goodwill or StVinny's will get you something solid. I then get packing foam and shape it to my gear. Then I hotglue it in the case for a perfect fit.

I dropped my MPC down some stairs once and it was fine.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Sat May 20, 2006 6:37 am

Sweet!

ortho · Post by **ortho** » Sat May 20, 2006 4:51 pm

I just got my SL25 for my imac G5 and i was wondering what setup everyone is using in the Live MIDI preferences, as far as IN,Out,Remote, and sync are concerned. i'm not sure i understand how the 2 USB ports and what that 3rd one does.

Automap is very confusing for me so far, but the potential for it is big. I can't get the tap tempo to work either.

my joystick is a little wobbly as well!

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Sat May 20, 2006 11:05 pm

kennerb wrote:All my gear gets put into old leather or vinyl luggage. It's inconspicuous and makes me look uber hip.

$2 -$5 at goodwill or StVinny's will get you something solid. I then get packing foam and shape it to my gear. Then I hotglue it in the case for a perfect fit.

I dropped my MPC down some stairs once and it was fine.

Great idea!

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Sun May 21, 2006 4:58 am

ortho wrote:I just got my SL25 for my imac G5 and i was wondering what setup everyone is using in the Live MIDI preferences, as far as IN,Out,Remote, and sync are concerned. i'm not sure i understand how the 2 USB ports and what that 3rd one does.

Automap is very confusing for me so far, but the potential for it is big. I can't get the tap tempo to work either.

my joystick is a little wobbly as well!

Under 'Remote Control Surfaces' Set the SL in all 3 boxes (control, inuput, output). On mine, sometimes in the midi in/out boxes Live only has 'USB device' listed and sometimes Live loses the settings. Resetting them works out ok.

LOFA and Glitchrock posted about this a bit...
Last night I jammed at a friend's place, I connected to his setup via MIDI, I synced my MIDI clock to USB device[2]. My SL is 'USB[1]' or just 'USB', a device connected to it is 'USB[2]', the more devices you add, the higher the number after 'USB'. Initially the SL showed up only as 'USB Device' and wouldn't sync, I had to reinstall to get it to list as 'SL25' then I could sync to the other setup.

That's more or less how it happened, it was late, I was wasted, I didn't take notes, but all worked well in the end.

Automap is pretty straightforward, just spend some time with it. The manual is short, there are videos on the DVD that came with it and on the http://www.novationmusic.com site.

Novation and Live definitely need to update Automap, having the jumping knobs is a drag, amateur move. The SL is short on keys BUT it's great to have a portable keyboard, I don't know if I'd get an SL0 with another keyboard, in the end they'd take more space. I have a full scale keyboard anyway.

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Sun May 21, 2006 5:26 am

Deadly Kung Fu-

I'm feeling the Ministry reference. All night at work last night I had So What in my head.

dave dominey · Post by **dave dominey** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:50 am

oh well ...

the first one i got had a dodgy pitch bender, it had a weird little glitch at the top of its bend range that stopped it from reaching its full range, unless u pushed it a little too hard.

now the second one has 5 non workin pads, they only send a message if u push them really hard and only then as u release them, also the pitch bender clicks in the middle of its range.

shame shame
im rather gutted
its a sweet unit but i wont want to try a third, especially as the guy in the shop (soundcontrol glasgow) muttered something under his breath about them already recalling them and he thought they were all fixed now

regards
dave

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Mon May 22, 2006 2:50 am

LOFA wrote:I'm feeling the Ministry reference. All night at work last night I had So What in my head.

Ministry has ended up being timeless, been listening to them since 'With Sympathy'.

Its total work music, 'if I gotta be here, fuck you and your bullshit'. I work amongst a bunch of cubicles, I like walking around listening to Ministry, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Sabbath, NIN on my headphones... funny juxtoposition 'cause I work with a bunch of geeks (I got it good though).

LOFA · Post by **LOFA** » Mon May 22, 2006 5:55 am

DeadlyKungFu wrote:Ministry has ended up being timeless, been listening to them since 'With Sympathy'.

Its total work music, 'if I gotta be here, fuck you and your bullshit'. I work amongst a bunch of cubicles, I like walking around listening to Ministry, Marilyn Manson, Rob Zombie, Sabbath, NIN on my headphones... funny juxtoposition 'cause I work with a bunch of geeks (I got it good though).

Yeah. I was definately weened by ministry myself. The whole catalogue. Unfortunately I have listen to some god-awful top forty crap at work. My one supervisor lives by it. I have been alone all week, collecting my thoughts in the silence, training myself all these frigging IT operations. Naturally, "So What" creeped back into my head.

dave dominey wrote:its a sweet unit but i wont want to try a third, especially as the guy in the shop (soundcontrol glasgow) muttered something under his breath about them already recalling them and he thought they were all fixed now

This scares me. I hope that none of these glitches I am experiencing are hardware.

lincolnkid · Post by **lincolnkid** » Mon May 22, 2006 8:06 am

dave dominey · Post by **dave dominey** » Mon May 22, 2006 12:39 pm

i spoke to the manager in sound control earlier. he was surprised as he had already had a batch sent back and returned with the pads working in reverse problem.

he is getting a new batch in next week, ive gotta give it another chance coz its a superb toy

i'll want it testing in store before i bring it home again though

cheers
dave

buzzcock · Post by **buzzcock** » Tue May 23, 2006 8:22 am

Does anyone know how the Automap protocol actually works? I'm guessing it's all MIDI signals sent to and from Live and the hardware. Anybody know the details?

Jackthehouse · Post by **Jackthehouse** » Tue May 23, 2006 11:15 am

Does this automap function also exist for the novation x-station?
thx