Alternative controllers + joystick

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Fri Apr 19, 2002 7:10 am

Lately I have been looking at the possibility to use 'unprogrammed' keyboards like manufactured by PI Engineering - http://www.ymouse.com . Has anyone used this type of alternative controllers with Live!

They also have a version with a programmable joystick . Would it be possible (maybe in future release) to assign in the efx the x/y dot to this joystick (or the joystick of a gamecontroller)?

Also as anyone noticed this behaviour : when assigning a loopsample to a certain keyboard key, I seem only to be able to trigger it , despite it status of [Loop-Trigger-Gate- ...] - also stopping the loop with the same keyboard key isn't possible, only retriggering (eg for stutter efx(Using Live! Full version 1.0 under win2000)

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 2:42 pm

Anyone?
No one?

[Sorry for being impatient and bumping this thread]

ryansupak · Post by **ryansupak** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 9:20 pm

ive been experimenting with LIve and a BAT chordal keyboard.

www.infogrip.com

ryansupak · Post by **ryansupak** » Mon Apr 22, 2002 9:22 pm

ive been experimenting with LIve and a BAT chordal keyboard.

www.infogrip.com

PI48895 · Post by **PI48895** » Tue Apr 30, 2002 8:43 pm

Mbazzy

I spotted your post. We make the X-keys. Can I answer any questions for you?

[quote="Mbazzy"]
Lately I have been looking at the possibility to use 'unprogrammed' keyboards like manufactured by PI Engineering - http://www.ymouse.com . Has anyone used this type of alternative controllers with Live!

They also have a version with a programmable joystick . Would it be possible (maybe in future release) to assign in the efx the x/y dot to this joystick (or the joystick of a gamecontroller)?

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Wed May 01, 2002 10:24 am

Great that you've spotted this forum.
I just wondered how one of your unprogrammed keyboards would 'behave' with live.

If I'd connect one of these to my pc running Live!, than go in Live! into keymapping mode, will live! pickup the unprogrammed key (eg, top row, far left key) I'm assigning to this or that sample? Or do I have to program they keyboard itself first?

What I'd like to do is take an unprogrammed keyboard and consider the keys layout (eg 8x8 rows/columns) as a physical schematic of my live! 'loops-matrix', allowing me to switch/trigger in a very intuitive way

PI48895 · Post by **PI48895** » Fri May 03, 2002 6:54 pm

Mbazzy wrote: I just wondered how one of your unprogrammed keyboards would 'behave' with live.
What I'd like to do is take an unprogrammed keyboard and consider the keys layout (eg 8x8 rows/columns) as a physical schematic of my live! 'loops-matrix', allowing me to switch/trigger in a very intuitive way

I apologize for not being familiar with the way Live! works, but I can tell you how the X-keys will work.

Each key on the X-keys may be programmed with a keystroke or combination of keystrokes.

If Live! already has keyboard shortcuts (Ctrl+H, etc.) to do what you want to do, it's just a matter of programming those shortcuts into the location you want on the X-keys.

Programming is simple and intuitive:
Slide our Programming switch up
Select a key on the X-keys
Type your programming for that key
Select the key again
Slide the programming switch down, or select another X-key.

If Live! has the ability to map keys you would, as you suggested, program the X-keys first, then assign each key to the function you require in Live!.

Hope this helps.

Mbazzy · Post by **Mbazzy** » Fri May 03, 2002 7:24 pm

Thanx for the quick answer - think I'm in for one ...

Anyone (at Ableton ?) that could give any feedback if the 'efx-dot' itself can be manipulated by midi or other type of joystick (like in x-keys)

PI48895 · Post by **PI48895** » Fri May 03, 2002 7:31 pm

Mbazzy wrote: Anyone (at Ableton ?) that could give any feedback if the 'efx-dot' itself can be manipulated by midi or other type of joystick (like in x-keys)

The Joystick on our X-keys installs like a standard USB Joystick (AKA MicroSoft Sidewinder) with X, Y, and Z-Axis. As far as Windows is concerned, you've connected a USB joystick.

mark0 · Post by **mark0** » Tue May 28, 2002 7:19 pm

I saw this the other day - sounds quite cool:

http://www.macros.com/

using the xkeys controllers with this macro recorder could open up a whole new way of controlling live....

i haven't really investigated yet, but i reckon there's some possibilities.....

Neil · Post by **Neil** » Sun Jun 09, 2002 11:20 pm

Ok, Im gonna let the cat out of the bag(since ive just scooped up my second one of these)

Want a inexpensive Midi Controller with 16 fader controles(thats right... 16!) and mute buttons, four efx knobs, fully programable with snapshot options... goto audiomidi.com ... look up the Niche Automation Station ... it sells for $149(its been discontinued) and works like a charm with Live!

.... Neil