Why do you hate EDM? "House, Trance, Techno"
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Why do you hate EDM? "House, Trance, Techno"
This topic is here to explore why people here at this forum don't like EDM, trance as the most hated. And please give legit reasons. No "its too repetitive or I don't like it."
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Pce,
DJS
This is sure to be fun
Pce,
DJS
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You hear about a party from a friend, who heard about it from some kid at his school.
"Hey, I'm being dragged to this party. I guess it's supposed to be about free love and techno music. I don't know, but it sounds like fun and I'm bored. Come with us."
So you agree to go. You get there, and it takes a bit to get into... But eventually you're enjoying yourself, dancing in the dark, moving your body in such ways that would not be possible in regular situations. Someone offers you drugs, you may partake, but for the most part it's just a fun time.
You attend these parties regularly, and eventually develop a taste for music. Your favorite kind is (insert genre here), and you end up collecting a lot of CDs. Listening to the CDs more and more often, you begin to pick out patterns and how rhythms work, and also begin to notice when DJs are slipping in their mix. "I want to DJ" you say, as you parooze PSSL for a pair of decks and a mixer.
A few years go by and you have had a number of gigs since you started. A bit longer goes by, and you begin to loathe that which influenced you. It's not enough. It's fucking boring and reptitive. The lyrics mean nothing, and you realized that often, it's the synthetic musical rambles of drug-addled brains that make the best tracks!
This crisis forces you directly to stop listening to modern popular EDM completely, because you fail to see the artistic merit behind someone producing such lame, repetitive music. You immediately pick back up on "normal" music like rock and rap, to try to find some better artistry.
Which leaves you here, wondering why you hate EDM so much. Too repetitive? Not very artistic? Too commercial? Too self-indulgent?
All of the above?
"Hey, I'm being dragged to this party. I guess it's supposed to be about free love and techno music. I don't know, but it sounds like fun and I'm bored. Come with us."
So you agree to go. You get there, and it takes a bit to get into... But eventually you're enjoying yourself, dancing in the dark, moving your body in such ways that would not be possible in regular situations. Someone offers you drugs, you may partake, but for the most part it's just a fun time.
You attend these parties regularly, and eventually develop a taste for music. Your favorite kind is (insert genre here), and you end up collecting a lot of CDs. Listening to the CDs more and more often, you begin to pick out patterns and how rhythms work, and also begin to notice when DJs are slipping in their mix. "I want to DJ" you say, as you parooze PSSL for a pair of decks and a mixer.
A few years go by and you have had a number of gigs since you started. A bit longer goes by, and you begin to loathe that which influenced you. It's not enough. It's fucking boring and reptitive. The lyrics mean nothing, and you realized that often, it's the synthetic musical rambles of drug-addled brains that make the best tracks!
This crisis forces you directly to stop listening to modern popular EDM completely, because you fail to see the artistic merit behind someone producing such lame, repetitive music. You immediately pick back up on "normal" music like rock and rap, to try to find some better artistry.
Which leaves you here, wondering why you hate EDM so much. Too repetitive? Not very artistic? Too commercial? Too self-indulgent?
All of the above?
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Woah woah there buddy . I see your points but maybe you took it a little too far out of the music and into the culture. I'm asking, discounting the DJing and rave culture, why one would choose not to listen to the likes of Above and Beyond, Ferry Corsten, Alphazone, ect...the_planet wrote:You hear about a party from a friend, who heard about it from some kid at his school.
"Hey, I'm being dragged to this party. I guess it's supposed to be about free love and techno music. I don't know, but it sounds like fun and I'm bored. Come with us."
So you agree to go. You get there, and it takes a bit to get into... But eventually you're enjoying yourself, dancing in the dark, moving your body in such ways that would not be possible in regular situations. Someone offers you drugs, you may partake, but for the most part it's just a fun time.
You attend these parties regularly, and eventually develop a taste for music. Your favorite kind is (insert genre here), and you end up collecting a lot of CDs. Listening to the CDs more and more often, you begin to pick out patterns and how rhythms work, and also begin to notice when DJs are slipping in their mix. "I want to DJ" you say, as you parooze PSSL for a pair of decks and a mixer.
A few years go by and you have had a number of gigs since you started. A bit longer goes by, and you begin to loathe that which influenced you. It's not enough. It's fucking boring and reptitive. The lyrics mean nothing, and you realized that often, it's the synthetic musical rambles of drug-addled brains that make the best tracks!
This crisis forces you directly to stop listening to modern popular EDM completely, because you fail to see the artistic merit behind someone producing such lame, repetitive music. You immediately pick back up on "normal" music like rock and rap, to try to find some better artistry.
Which leaves you here, wondering why you hate EDM so much. Too repetitive? Not very artistic? Too commercial? Too self-indulgent?
All of the above?
Forget about the illigal drug rave parties and give reasons why you don't like the music
I appreciate your input tho ,
DJS
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Are we just discovering that people have different tatses?
I could ask a similar question of you: Why do so many "EDM" (which doesn't really mean what it sounds like it means, i mean come one, people dance to hip hop or electro or dance hall and all of those things are electronic.) fans dismiss most other forms of electronic music?
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I could ask a similar question of you: Why do so many "EDM" (which doesn't really mean what it sounds like it means, i mean come one, people dance to hip hop or electro or dance hall and all of those things are electronic.) fans dismiss most other forms of electronic music?
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Because most dance music hasn't progressed much in the last 5 years. People are just putting out "sounds like" tracks, and not exploring e-music more
Then again I'm jaded.
Then again I'm jaded.
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I'm actually finding electronic music at the moment is the best it's ever been
the sounds around now are in a diffent league to the past because technology has taken some amazing jumps over the last 5 years and people are just starting to catch up and use it to it's potential
I'm hearing stuff that's inspiring me more than anything has in years - probably since the early-mid 90s
just spend a few days on beatport alone and you'll scour some amazing music
I just bought 7 tracks and every one of them is wicked.
the sounds around now are in a diffent league to the past because technology has taken some amazing jumps over the last 5 years and people are just starting to catch up and use it to it's potential
I'm hearing stuff that's inspiring me more than anything has in years - probably since the early-mid 90s
just spend a few days on beatport alone and you'll scour some amazing music
I just bought 7 tracks and every one of them is wicked.
i dont hate trance music. there is alot of it that is very corny sounding but there is corny in every genra of music.
idm is a genra that has alot of corny sounding ( and very repeatative ) music, but no one admits it. .
the problem with trance is when you speak of it people imagine sampes of rnb singers along with snare build ups and orchestra hits. trance does not have to be like this. you dont need a 808 or 909 4/4 kick in every song either.
idm is a genra that has alot of corny sounding ( and very repeatative ) music, but no one admits it. .
the problem with trance is when you speak of it people imagine sampes of rnb singers along with snare build ups and orchestra hits. trance does not have to be like this. you dont need a 808 or 909 4/4 kick in every song either.
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Because it all sounds the same, the same drum line could be used on every song, and it wouldn't change the song at all. THe percussion in general is geared so strictly towards letting even the most drunken, stoned, whitest kid stumble around a dance floor, and feel like they have moves, that it actually starts to become painful to listen to. Four on the floor for more than an hour straight, with the big variation being a 2 second drop out drives me batty.
People can dance to hip hop, IDM (some), rock, etc., but that's not what happens, people are trained to only dance to four on the floor kick and snare.
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It's not creative music IMO. Sure a few people come up with some great tracks, but in general it's as arid as pop music.
How's that for a rant?
People can dance to hip hop, IDM (some), rock, etc., but that's not what happens, people are trained to only dance to four on the floor kick and snare.
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It's not creative music IMO. Sure a few people come up with some great tracks, but in general it's as arid as pop music.
How's that for a rant?
Yes and hip hop is sooo creative. Persoanlly I'd rather listen to a 4/4 staright kickdrum than listen to a night full of no melody whatsoever being played at 98 bpm.
Everyone has their own tastes. I personally like tribal house. Alot of people don't like "edm" because it's very formula oriented and quantized so heavily. Alot of times it lacks "human feel".
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Everyone has their own tastes. I personally like tribal house. Alot of people don't like "edm" because it's very formula oriented and quantized so heavily. Alot of times it lacks "human feel".
Just my .02 Uhh, What, What!!
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I'm actually finding electronic music at the moment is the best it's ever been
the sounds around now are in a diffent league to the past because technology has taken some amazing jumps over the last 5 years and people are just starting to catch up and use it to it's potential
I'm hearing stuff that's inspiring me more than anything has in years - probably since the early-mid 90s
just spend a few days on beatport alone and you'll scour some amazing music
I just bought 7 tracks and every one of them is wicked.
I agree. I think the music coming out now is very good. Also, the increasing numbers of labels which have converted to digital formats rather than just vinyl... it has opened the doors for many new, young and otherwise unknown producers. I buy more music now than ever, and I buy more music from people I've never heard of.
The original queston is why people hate EDM. Well, I don't. EDM is pretty much all I listen to.
You're asking why people hate trance? Well, I don't know the answer. Like any other style of music, I like some trance... but dislike a lot of it. My musical tastes have changed over the years. In the early 1990s, trance was a little different than it is today. When someone asks me to give an example of trance music, the first producer I think of is Oliver Lieb. Tracks like Fragile, and Train of Thought instantly come to my mind. I think Oliver Lieb is a musical genius, and many of his productions from the 1990s define the trance genre in my mind.
Back in my early partying days, all I wanted to hear was trance. I wanted hard, fast music, with energy and melody. I didn't care for house music at all. But now my tastes have shifted away from trance and more into progressive. When I think of trance now, Tiesto is who comes to mind. I can't stand the trance sound that Tiesto plays. It's so cheesy, corny, and over-the-top epic sounding. It's too fast, and there's too much fanfare. I like melodies, and emotion in music.... but only just a bit. There is such a fine line between having emotion and going too far and being cheesy. Progressive, at least for me, seems to be a genre which straddles this line. Tracks have some melody, but not where it goes over-the-top.
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