Live 6 video - who asked for it?

Discuss music production with Ableton Live.

Live 6 Video

Silly gimmicky functionality that I don't want to pay for; can't believe they wasted devmt hours on this rather than innovative audio tools like a killer full-featured slicing sampler!
18
19%
Halleluiah! Finally Ableton delivers this crucial facility that was sorely missing for so long. I can't believe I have survived without it; it is going to revolutionise how I work.
55
59%
I really don't care (thus as I probably won't use it I am a bit pissed off that I'll have no choice but to also effectively pay for this functionality if I upgrade)
21
22%
 
Total votes: 94

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Live 6 video - who asked for it?

Post by mokomo » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:32 pm

Personally I am disappointed to see Ableton starting to develop video funtionality.

It is not on the roadmap that I hoped Ableton would stick to.

I wanted to see them dedicated to only developing more top-notch audio gizmos for Live (for my money).

... Or at least leave the video functionality as an optional extra purchase (like operator and sampler) rather than a mandatory addition that I don't need or want.
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Post by forge » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:48 pm

dude, it just makes life alot easier for those of us who want to put music to video. that's it.

Apparently it was the single most requested feature

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Post by mokomo » Sun Jul 30, 2006 12:55 pm

I wonder was it 0.01% of users requesting it, but the other 99.99% didn't bother to make any requests :lol: kind of like GWB getting elected the first time.

Anyway, no major complaint from me, I was just curious as to whether there are many people fervently interested in it. I do think it should be optional though (and sampler built-in) :idea:
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Post by bassan » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:03 pm

As Video Support seems to be heavily connected to Qicktime, I don´t think it was a complicated thing to get it implemented into Live 6.
Definitely less work than Sampler or Operator.
Just my 2 cents.
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Post by Meef Chaloin » Sun Jul 30, 2006 1:16 pm

i kind of feel the same, i cant help thinking that it might bloat out the program, make it more cpu hungry. However, i am looking forward to having a play with it, ive done music to video a few times in pro tools & its such fun.
I guess as long as it isnt too much an extra load on live then its a cool extra feature.

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Post by headquest » Sun Jul 30, 2006 3:03 pm

I didn't ask for it and probably will never use it...

BUT I'm glad they added it, because I think there are lots of users who WILL find it useful (even if I'm not one of them) and it helps take Live forward as a program and advance Ableton's conquest of the music world :D .
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Post by longjohns » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:19 pm

i don't really care about the video part, but the fact that it led to having the warp master setting is awesome

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Post by Robert Henke » Sun Jul 30, 2006 4:38 pm

It was an extremly often requested feature.
It does not eat ANY additional CPU if not in use
It was easy to implement
It does not need one single new interface element
Its developement had the great side effect of allowing any audio clip to act as master. ( which was also often requested btw!)

There are certainly things we still need to improve in Live but complaining about this special feature does not make so much sense to me....

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Post by Silverfish » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:27 pm

pwned by Monolake!

I would like to thank the Abletons for a)listening to their customers cheers and jeers, b)being very efficient with their innovation, and c)adding video. 'Nuff said.

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Post by Machinate » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:31 pm

Silverfish wrote:pwned by Monolake!
AND by the results of the poll ;-)
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Post by Mike Goodwin » Sun Jul 30, 2006 5:38 pm

For me it is good news. I at the moment I wont use it that much but down the road I hope that I will. I know that by the end of the summer I will be working on a project that will require me to sync to video so it is a very welcome addition. Also all other major sequencers have this feature it is just a logical addition.

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Post by Angstrom » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:36 pm

One day you will be with someone and they will say "I've made a short film, right now I'm using library music, it sounds terrible, if only I could find someone to do music for it"
On that day, when you say "hey, I'll do some music for your film ifyou like" , on that very day, you will think about how you said that video was stupid and you will never use it.

If you don't need to work with video now, fine, like Robert said - it's hardly affecting you.

If you do need to use video now, you will be glad, you can work with video.

My car has a cigarette lighter, I don't smoke - but I won't try and tear it out of the dash. One day it may come in useful.

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Post by paddypaws » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:42 pm

Angstrom wrote:
My car has a cigarette lighter, I don't smoke - but I won't try and tear it out of the dash. One day it may come in useful.
thats the way i see it too
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Post by subbasshead » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:44 pm

I sincerely thank Ableton for adding video playback
& Robert for succinctly giving Mokomo reasons to stop acting like a spoilt child :D

i would have been a bit blunter - GET OVER IT!
& maybe try being a bit more open minded

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Post by headquest » Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:55 pm

Robert makes an excellent point, as does Angstrom.

However, having played with video a little in the Live 6 beta, my only comment (not intended as a criticism, please!) would be that for scoring video I think my other software offers more... video support in Live 6 seems slightly basic at this stage. In Sonar or Adobe Audition I can run video as a thumbnail view and score my music easily linking it to hit points and specific frames.

Also they both offer 5:1 surround sound options which are pretty important for movie scoring, no?

I suspect people using Live for movie scoring will ask for more features in Live 7 :wink:
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