OT: Global Warming? Record temps today in CA, USA

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 7:37 am

Has there ever been a generation that didn't think/hope that the world would end in their lifetime?

The only dude i can think off is nostradamus.
I think his bet is on WW3

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 8:14 am

then nostradamus is still alive.

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:28 am

funknotik wrote:I recently read an article about Carl Sagan, about how he didnt believe in the drake equation. (A theoretical physics equation that suggests there must be intelligent life in our galaxy other than ourselves.) One of the main reasons he didnt believe there was intellgient life ( atleast in this galaxy). Is because he says one of the problems with evolution is that eventually technology causes living beings to destroy there own planets. Either by nuclear fallout (as in mars, supposebly). Or by overwhelming environmental disaster. This theory is known as the fermi paradox

The amazing part is that we are intelligent enough to know this but not intelligent enough to stop it. We will destroy ourselves! So fill up your hummer and prepare to die!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fermi_Paradox

bet that guy is a real hoot at parties!

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 1:42 pm

just wanted to add...

just heard on the news "caltex reports record profits"

see that to me says loud and clear there is no problems with the supply, nothing to do with Iraq war etc, they are just putting prices up because they can. Prices have gone up a huge amount over the last ten years, yet every single time I hear a report about it the Oil/Petrol companies are enjoying "record profits"

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:57 pm

hoffman2k wrote:Has there ever been a generation that didn't think/hope that the world would end in their lifetime?

The only dude i can think off is nostradamus.
I think his bet is on WW3

Future Quatrain II-3: Impact in the Aegean

"Because of the solar heat on the sea of Euboea the fishes half cooked. The inhabitants will come to cut them when Rhodes and Genoa will fail them the biscuit.

Pour la chaleur solaire sus la mer

De Negrepont les poissons demi cuits:

Les habitants les viendront entamer

Quand Rhod. et Gennes leur faudra le biscuit.

The solar heat is often interpreted as a nuclear blast but the inhabitants would hardly eat radioactive fish. The only other feasible source for this extreme heat would be a comet or meteor striking off the shores of the Greek island of Euboea.2 Various quatrains point to a comet. Damage from shockwaves, tidal waves, and debris would, of course, be horrendous. The Euboeans evidently have to eat the fish when disaster relief expected from Rhodes and Genoa fails to arrive on time."

My interpretation is different: there you have it, global warming induced biscuit failure.

glu · Post by **glu** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 2:57 pm

especially after Hurricanes... or "shortages"

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:01 pm

mikemc wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Has there ever been a generation that didn't think/hope that the world would end in their lifetime?

The only dude i can think off is nostradamus.
I think his bet is on WW3
Future Quatrain II-3: Impact in the Aegean

"Because of the solar heat on the sea of Euboea the fishes half cooked. The inhabitants will come to cut them when Rhodes and Genoa will fail them the biscuit.

Pour la chaleur solaire sus la mer

De Negrepont les poissons demi cuits:

Les habitants les viendront entamer

Quand Rhod. et Gennes leur faudra le biscuit.

The solar heat is often interpreted as a nuclear blast but the inhabitants would hardly eat radioactive fish. The only other feasible source for this extreme heat would be a comet or meteor striking off the shores of the Greek island of Euboea.2 Various quatrains point to a comet. Damage from shockwaves, tidal waves, and debris would, of course, be horrendous. The Euboeans evidently have to eat the fish when disaster relief expected from Rhodes and Genoa fails to arrive on time."

My interpretation is different: there you have it, global warming induced biscuit failure.

I hope i never run into fish biscuits

mikemc · Post by **mikemc** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 3:17 pm

hoffman2k wrote:
mikemc wrote:
hoffman2k wrote:Has there ever been a generation that didn't think/hope that the world would end in their lifetime?

The only dude i can think off is nostradamus.
I think his bet is on WW3
Future Quatrain II-3: Impact in the Aegean

"Because of the solar heat on the sea of Euboea the fishes half cooked. The inhabitants will come to cut them when Rhodes and Genoa will fail them the biscuit.

Pour la chaleur solaire sus la mer

De Negrepont les poissons demi cuits:

Les habitants les viendront entamer

Quand Rhod. et Gennes leur faudra le biscuit.

The solar heat is often interpreted as a nuclear blast but the inhabitants would hardly eat radioactive fish. The only other feasible source for this extreme heat would be a comet or meteor striking off the shores of the Greek island of Euboea.2 Various quatrains point to a comet. Damage from shockwaves, tidal waves, and debris would, of course, be horrendous. The Euboeans evidently have to eat the fish when disaster relief expected from Rhodes and Genoa fails to arrive on time."

My interpretation is different: there you have it, global warming induced biscuit failure.
I hope i never run into fish biscuits

yes, but you may have no choice several of Nostradamus' more ominous quatrains refer to 'the great star' and heat from the sky/double suns.

...hmmm ... note the interesting lack of current solar data from this site....
http://www-istp.gsfc.nasa.gov/istp/outr ... atest.html

'routine maintenance and typical data glitches' or ...
government conspiracy?

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 9:15 pm

mikemc wrote:
yes, but you may have no choice several of Nostradamus' more ominous quatrains refer to 'the great star' and heat from the sky/double suns.

has anyone else heard about Mars - apparently on the 27th of this month it will be the closest it' been in thousands of years - supposedly in some places will appear almost as big as the moon - so I was told...

glu · Post by **glu** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:20 pm

I heard this about mars a few years ago. I could see a huge red star, but it didn't look like the moon. It was a real treat though.

When I was a kid, I used to have reoccuring dreams of supernovas and exploding stars, always accompanied by a field of watchers, hanging out in the back of pick up trucks, on top of a giant hill...

Maybe by the equator, mars might be larger... I don't know, I think that has something to do with the atmosphere and distortion, but i wouldn't be surprised to see a giant red star in the sky.... just as long as there aren't any exploding stars or supernovas.

forge · Post by **forge** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:41 pm

glu wrote:I heard this about mars a few years ago. I could see a huge red star, but it didn't look like the moon. It was a real treat though.

When I was a kid, I used to have reoccuring dreams of supernovas and exploding stars, always accompanied by a field of watchers, hanging out in the back of pick up trucks, on top of a giant hill...

Maybe by the equator, mars might be larger... I don't know, I think that has something to do with the atmosphere and distortion, but i wouldn't be surprised to see a giant red star in the sky.... just as long as there aren't any exploding stars or supernovas.

funny you say that - actually one of te main reasons alot of this stuff concerns me is because as long as I can remember I've had apocalyptic dreams - and I dont just mean end of the world fear stuff, but quite detailed things Like sailing up the river of my home city and it's all overgrown with forest after being destroyed years earlier - and that particular dream was more about how beautiful the scene was more than fear etc - and it's always stuck with me

but I have also got ALOT of post apocalyptic dreams over the years - being in places I know that have been totally changed and people living without plumbing/electricity etc - in England and Australia - my Australian dreams usually involve Chinese occupation, the England ones involve complete collapse of infrastructure

so there's some happy inroads into my twisted psyche for you!

glu · Post by **glu** » Fri Aug 25, 2006 10:49 pm

sAME with my dreams! It's actually beautiful... there is something to the unity of everyone watching this cosmic enigma together...

cool forge!

glu · Post by **glu** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:03 am

forge · Post by **forge** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 9:19 am

that first one looks pretty amazing!

glu · Post by **glu** » Sat Aug 26, 2006 7:50 pm