Dealing with anxiety, panic attacks etc..

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Dealing with anxiety, panic attacks etc..

Post by AndroidoParanoido » Tue Sep 05, 2006 10:24 am

Hello, i use this forum quiet often with another name and i have choosen another nickname to talk about something that bothers me really much...i would like to know how some of you people (and i know we are a lot out there) are dealing with anxiety problems, panic attacks and general low self-esteem...
I am 30 now, i have started to have this problems a the age of 18 and it has been my worst experience in all my life...the sensation of not to being able to control your toughts and to be afraid to do everything (go out, meeting people , making relations etc) was too crushing at that time...i began a psychological therapy and i am still there now, after having done it with 3 different shrinks in different parts of my life, and i have gone through all the antidepressant, anxiety killers meds etc.too...i have reached some goals in life...i gratuated in political sciences...i had my girlfriends and relations, i did my gigs and everything....but there is always something telling me that i am "wrong"...in the wrong place in the wrong time...not being able to enjoy life and its little things...always too much focalized on my problems...naturally this is not happening without a cause, i had a quiet disturbed childhood, my father sometimes beated me...went away from my house for another girl, and my mother was multiple sclerosis ill, so her beaviour has always been harsh and selfish for this reason too...but on the outside we were a "normal" family...i have been insulted so many times by my parents...
Now, i have been dumped with my girlfriend...sure things were not going well, and sure she was not understandin me at some levels (i am talking also about interestes etc.) also if she has tryed to be really supportive with me so we had to break up...she said that sometimes i was too hard to deal with and that i did not give here the right attentions being the lazy fuck that i am....now she says to me that she is meeting another guy and i had a bad crush on me...my anxiety level has reached high levels again...
Anyone has experienced this kind of things???
I am really insecure about my music too...at the end it always seems crap to me :roll: thanks

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Post by djsynchro » Tue Sep 05, 2006 11:06 am

A psychologist once said to me that there is no recipe for how to live life because every person is different. So I think you need to keep searching to find for what works for you.

Psychotherapy can be great, but you need a good psychotherapist.
There is a book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle who is a spiritual teacher.
You could have a look at it and you will know if it's for you or not.

Wishing you peace!

:)

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Post by D K » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:26 pm

fuck all those haters and good riddance to that awful cunt- you're better off.
smoke a fatty, or whatever, fuck her hot friends and most importantly,
play some shows/make some music. don't think about if it's good, just do it, only worry about the process, and being a good person in general. some people will like it, some won't.
no matter what you do. that's life.
that's how i deal, anyway.
now i'm married to a quality person and tour.
good things happen if you chill out and let them.
.02
cheers

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Post by [Galo] » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:30 pm

djsynchro wrote:A psychologist once said to me that there is no recipe for how to live life because every person is different. So I think you need to keep searching to find for what works for you.

Psychotherapy can be great, but you need a good psychotherapist.
There is a book "The Power of Now" by Eckhart Tolle who is a spiritual teacher.
You could have a look at it and you will know if it's for you or not.

Wishing you peace!

:)
good things happen if you chill out and let them.
it has been a long time since i've read so much truth in one sentence ;) amen :P
I once said to a psychologist, "SHUT THE F*CK UP", cause ya talk too much..

Dude, just search for the positive things in the negative situations to get ya groove on,... this is just a lesson to learn for ya next life... take it as it comes it wont happen different.

I've been through a lot in my life, but i still tell myself that i wouldn't be who i am right now if all that wouldn't have happend,

either it makes a man or it brakes a man, look in the mirror, you tell me ;)

goodluck...

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Post by b0unce » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:33 pm

lol....

I wonder if this thread will make it to 3 or 4 pages of heart-felt advice
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Post by forge » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:43 pm

b0unce wrote:lol....

I wonder if this thread will make it to 3 or 4 pages of heart-felt advice
I just clicked on it to see if you said anything nice! :lol: :lol:

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Post by minimal » Tue Sep 05, 2006 12:45 pm

ditch chemicals, do some sport, yoga and stuff

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Post by muthafunka » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:16 pm

Whatever you do will take time and effort, there are no quick fixes and really the only person who can do what needs to be done is you. Firstly I'd look at your lifestyle and be brutally honest about sleep, diet, exercise, drink, drugs and any other stimulants. Do you get enough or too much of any of these? Are you dependent on anything? I'd stop all alcohol, drugs, coffee etc immediately as you need to be as focused and in touch as possible if you are to deal with this, you must begin to pay attention and listen to what your mind and body is telling you. Make sure you're drinking at least 1 1/2 -2 litres of good quality water/day. Also some regular exercise (a daily 30 minute walk is an easy place to start) will help your circulation, will relax you and help your self-esteem as your condition improves. Regarding the exercise it's vital to be kind to yourself, don't punish yourself with weights and expectations. Some basic yoga would be excellent, there are many good dvds and books around if you don't want to face a class, although a class may prove a very therapeutic environment for you in many ways.
Also try listening and breathing and reading and breathing as examples, both are very un-fluffy and practical.
I suffered terribly debilitating anxiety/panic (ambulanced out of Tokyo station, unable to work for 6 months, chest pain, fear of death etc etc etc etc) for a number of years and while chemicals offered some temporary relief they do not deal with root causes or really offer any sustainable help. You will never completely forget that anxious feeling and at some point if you are physically/mentally weakened and fatigued you may occasionally feel a slight twinge of that old feeling, but by then hopefully you'll be stronger and better balanced with techniques and knowledge to help you deal with it.
As I said I suffered very badly, but at the same time I do not regret it. Years later I still feel stronger everyday, more flexible and better balanced physically and mentally, my health/fitness is better than ever as is my focus, concentration and (how to not sound cheesy??) inner quiet.
As DJSynchro said there us no one catch-all cure for all, but however you choose to deal with this you will need to start by looking at yourself and paying attention.
I have a friend who has also been suffering from panic for years but basically refuses to accept it's HIS problem and take the necessary steps. He now basically can't go anywhere other than by bicycle, never gets out of town, won't attend birthday/wedding parties etc and is a bitter man in a small world.
You're here asking for advice though so I don't see you falling into the same trap.
Hope things improve for you, they can :D

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Post by AndroidoParanoido » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:32 pm

Thanks to all for the nice advices...i hope this thread become a 20 pages monster...also djs have to deal with life pains :D
Anyway i will write a better answer when i will be back home from work..
cheers

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Post by muscleandhate » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:37 pm

I'd really recommend ditching the chemicals too, either legal or otherwise. Recently my friend was experiencing panic attacks and extreme anxiety, he went to see the doctor and was simply prescribed eighty days of prozac and beta-blockers. In my opinion, there remain some problematic issues within the western medical methodology. Firstly, convention suggests that the mind and body are two seperate things, but this is not true. If your feeling mentally ill, your phyisical fitness might well have something to do with it. Honestly, when I get depressed I try go for a run for a few miles, it's difficult because I smoke a lot. Despite that, after I return I feel as though the running has engendered a new confidence through a sense of achievement.
good things happen if you chill out and let them.
Pay no attention to this at all, it is pathetic and self-defeating advice. If someone is wrong in your life you need to reclaim control of your life and attempt to make the changes that you feel are necessary. There is a big wide world out there and you need to get involved in it for things to happen.

I too also have afflictions with low self-esteam. Sometimes I just sit there and wonder what the fuck is going on. So I write little notes like 'stay positive', which sounds funny but I find it helps. Also I think seeking professional counsel is a good thing, as talking to others about the way you feel is basically vocalising your thoughts which can potentially give you a better grasp on them.

Good luck.

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Post by ocp » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:44 pm

A change of scenary can work wonders; make a trip once in a while. The change of environment will set your mind on other things; allow some surprises in your life.
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Post by minimal » Tue Sep 05, 2006 1:53 pm

ocp wrote:A change of scenary can work wonders; make a trip once in a while. The change of environment will set your mind on other things; allow some surprises in your life.
Cheers :wink:
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do yourself some nice favours, treat you well.
Eat and drink healty, too.

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Post by koneko » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:01 pm

quiet is what you and everybody need.
youre not alone in this bad trip. we're all there to some extent. not liking yourself is something you learn to do very easily and early as a child. as bizzare as it may sound, this is one of the main materials our personality is made out of.
i join the recommendation to check out "the power of now". for my point of view, traditional western psychoanalyze is not the answer.
eat good. (if you are able to make yourself a good salad once a day, it means youre on the right way ;) )

last thing, dont know if you've ever heard of vipassana http://www.dhamma.org/ there are courses all over the world. its a 10 day meditation course, total silence in a monastery-like environment. this can fix what a good psychotherapy will never achieve.
what else? just love yourself and the world.

and dont ever forget. you ARE free
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Re: Dealing with anxiety, panic attacks etc..

Post by Benshik » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:04 pm

AndroidoParanoido wrote:she said that sometimes i was too hard to deal with and that i did not give here the right attentions being the lazy fuck that i am....
ALL gals in the world, whatever their age or culture, find that their bf dont pay enough attention to them ;)
If you dont remember the tea you had with her on a tuesday afternoon 5 years ago and during which you said she had nice hair, she'll tell you're a selfish fuck ;)

But actually, maybe in a way we are.... So my advice would be: forget a little about your problems, change your perspective, think about others...

good luck
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Post by wavejumper » Tue Sep 05, 2006 2:05 pm

i'd avoid seeking any form of personal 'advice' on this forum. I am sure there are more useful online places that might give you more focused and balanced advice. Good luck.

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