eq3 colours sound (even when flat!) - here's a workaround

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:23 am

ok, i've been doing some tests after reading about the problems with eq3 here: http://www.abletonlivedj.com/forum/viewtopic.php?p=4215

i was a:b ing a track through eq3 vs 2 eq4s (both flat) and eq3 colours the sound, EVEN WHEN IT'S FLAT!!!! yuck!

this post should really be on both boards.

anyway:

if you double up two eq4s using midiyoke, bidule, controlAid or live 6 you can make it so that the same knob controls both eqs and the difference is like night and day. try it and see. it really is a godsend.

booURNS to eq3! never again!

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 6:26 am

ps: if anyone can figure out a nice simple way to make isolators they can hit me up for 2 hours of fellatio redeemable either all at once, or in seperate sessions at your leisure.

obeyendevor · Post by **obeyendevor** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:21 pm

I was saying BOOerns

thanks alot. I had a eq3 on EVERY CHANNEL!!! forget that

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:40 pm

The Phat Conductor wrote:ps: if anyone can figure out a nice simple way to make isolators they can hit me up for 2 hours of fellatio redeemable either all at once, or in seperate sessions at your leisure.

There will be a number of great isolators in the next Covert Operator pack. Some are drastic, some are simply transparent.

I can't begin to describe the beauty of EQ8+racks.

It's..just..that..good!

hambone1 · Post by **hambone1** » Tue Sep 12, 2006 8:44 pm

Machinate wrote:I can't begin to describe the beauty of EQ8+racks.

It's..just..that..good!

You really need to get out more. You're scaring me...

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:50 am

hambone1 wrote:
Machinate wrote:I can't begin to describe the beauty of EQ8+racks.

It's..just..that..good!
You really need to get out more. You're scaring me...

he's making me horny.

BRING IT!

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:52 am

i've been telling folks for years... EQ4 sounds better than EQ3.... but nooooo, no one listens.

The Phat Conductor · Post by **The Phat Conductor** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 1:55 am

AdamJay wrote:i've been telling folks for years... EQ4 sounds better than EQ3.... but nooooo, no one listens.

i don't think anyone was debating that eq3 sounded shit, it's just a bit of a pain to macro map the midi knobs to control two eq4s unless you have ableton 6.

controlAid can do it relatively painlessly though.

Patch · Post by **Patch** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 8:39 am

I hate eq3.

When I started learning to use Live I had version 2. No EQ3. I so wanted EQ3 for DJ'ing. When I finally upgraded and got EQ3 it was like a kick in the nuts. Sounded awful. Thank the lord for EQ4 with one band disabled!

dj helixx · Post by **dj helixx** » Wed Sep 13, 2006 11:13 am

how do you go about mapping both eq4s with midiyoke never used it before

Frantic · Post by **Frantic** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 12:58 am

Could some of you maybe comment in here?

http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... 594#338594

Especially you Patch. Thanks much.

anti-banausic · Post by **anti-banausic** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 3:45 am

AdamJay wrote:i've been telling folks for years... EQ4 sounds better than EQ3.... but nooooo, no one listens.

I did. I did. However, if you superimpose 2 or 3 bands of eq8 at the same frequency and set them all to hi-pass or low-pass, you can get some very surgical cutting of frequencies when DJing. It is very impressive. Much cleaner than even most of the DJ mixers I have used.

Yay!!!!!

EQ8 really is quite hot, even if it doesn't have quite the A/B functionality I was hoping for.

hoffman2k · Post by **hoffman2k** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 5:49 am

hambone1 wrote:
Machinate wrote:I can't begin to describe the beauty of EQ8+racks.

It's..just..that..good!
You really need to get out more. You're scaring me...

Mwhuahahaha!!!!!

*crawls back towards his BCR*

DeadlyKungFu · Post by **DeadlyKungFu** » Thu Sep 14, 2006 6:36 am

dj helixx wrote:how do you go about mapping both eq4s with midiyoke never used it before

with midi yoke you can control multiple midi tracks with one midi source.

send out to midi yoke with track 1, and tracks 2, 3, 4 etc can listen to the same midi yoke input. there's a lot you can do by making a midi clip that sends commands back into Live.

midi yoke is lots of fun to play with and free to download.

I don't think you can use midi yoke to have 1 knob control multiple knobs in FX/vsts/etc. you need a program like bomes, reaktor, max/msp some kind of translator and real time midi tool. I haven't used those.

In Live 6 you can assign 1 knob to a bunch of controls. 1 knob can control bpm, quantise, scene launch, groove, an EQ filter freq, a delay setting etc in one movement, i you were insane enough to go there.

logix · Post by **logix** » Sun Sep 17, 2006 8:25 pm

The Phat Conductor wrote:
AdamJay wrote:i've been telling folks for years... EQ4 sounds better than EQ3.... but nooooo, no one listens.

i don't think anyone was debating that eq3 sounded shit, it's just a bit of a pain to macro map the midi knobs to control two eq4s unless you have ableton 6.

controlAid can do it relatively painlessly though.

What is ControlAid? Is this another program? How do you use it with Ableton + EQ4?