OT: Firewire 410 and Mac OSX 10.4.7 (Mac Pro)

Jeroen · Post by **Jeroen** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 8:33 am

I had similar problems trying out M-audio firewire ProjectMix I/O with 10.4.7. Havent tried 10.4.6 though. The driver indeed seems to be the problem here ....

CWoodOne · Post by **CWoodOne** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:29 am

OliQ wrote:What happens if you get a new Mac with 10.4.7 installs, can you revert it to 10.4.6 using the download for 10.4.6 on the Apple site? Will a FW410 work then?

I'm new to Macs, Windows would never allow you to go back to a previous OS version like that...

There were updates to 10.4.7 for MacPro, so I doubt it would work

boraxx · Post by **boraxx** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 11:53 am

well u know what sucks about the 410. that u cant unplugg / plugg it without rebooting. or has this changed with new driver releases? do other Firewire interfaces sport the same issue? anyone?

CWoodOne · Post by **CWoodOne** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 12:04 pm

boraxx wrote:well u know what sucks about the 410. that u cant unplugg / plugg it without rebooting. or has this changed with new driver releases? do other Firewire interfaces sport the same issue? anyone?

I don't think anyone recommends disconnecting Firewire hardware when running, since it's interfaced to the rest of the hardware differently than something like USB, it'd be more like pulling out a hard drive...

The FW410 support from M-Audio sucks. When I first reported their driver didn't work, they sent me a message (days later) "reinstall the driver", I reported that didn't work. Then I sent another message, the response was "reinstall the driver". Then I sent a message asking if they'd even read my message. They responded the next week "reinstall the driver".
They suck, they suck, they suck.

justin · Post by **justin** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 1:13 pm

yep, m-audio make shit drivers and their support is hopeless.

however, i had a problem with FW410 a while ago which might be of help.

i used it to mix a surround sound project, and all went well.
later i got back to my studio, plugged in my midi sport USB 2x2 device and i couldnt see it on the list of devices!

to cut a long story short, what i had to do was to run the FW410 driver installer and select uninstall from there. then i had to dl the latest version of the driver and re-install. after that, my midi sport 2x2 usb started working again. a frustrating experience because i had to figure this out myself, their support team didnt answer my question until 2/3 weeks later - by which time i had fixed it already.

so the critical thing for me was to use the m-audio driver installer to uninstall, rather than going into system folder and removing files manually.

i also had quite a few problems with the FW410 and midi timing - so in the end, i wouldnt recommend their hardware. it's not that they make shit gear, but they do make crappy drivers with dumb support. which is worrying for a company which is owned by avid / pro tools...

may the force be with you.

CWoodOne · Post by **CWoodOne** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 2:35 pm

I tried the uninstall/reinstall repair permissions thing from every possible direction. At the heart of the problem is the fact that M-Audio doesn't use the CoreAudio system, they have their own driver/control panel for Macs, which always lags behind mac updates. Their programmers seem to be
fairly well "held back" for lack of a more polite expression. Just the inane responses, like the one I got after asking if they'd even read my message are not only infuriating, but show you the regard M-Audio have for their customers.

djmyke · Post by **djmyke** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 4:06 pm

my friend wants to buy my fw 410 since he is using PC...

should i get a new one? i want a portable one like the FW 410... any other options? ... i wudnt wana spend that much agen for an interface... hope its within the price range or FW 410

or do i use my XP in macbook so that i can still run FW 410

or is it better to buy edirol FA-66 for my macbook?

they said that this interface is not compatible with protools... (who needs protools neway haha)

kcp · Post by **kcp** » Thu Sep 21, 2006 7:43 pm

boraxx wrote:well u know what sucks about the 410. that u cant unplugg / plugg it without rebooting. or has this changed with new driver releases? do other Firewire interfaces sport the same issue? anyone?

I plug and unplug my 410 from my iBook all the time with no trouble. I always put the iBook to sleep first, though. Very rarely do I need to reboot.

I'm on a ppc mac, so no driver trouble, but I can attest that M-Audio's tech support truly sucks.

djmyke · Post by **djmyke** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 7:53 pm

thank god maudio released 10.4.7 drivers

CWoodOne · Post by **CWoodOne** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 8:16 pm

djmyke wrote:thank god maudio released 10.4.7 drivers

Yeah, and amazingly enough, they actually work on my Mac Pro. I'm just dreading an update to 10.4.8 and having to wait for another m-audio update.

Atomikat · Post by **Atomikat** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:26 pm

I have a macbook pro and a 410 and they work together without problem...

Paul Nolan · Post by **Paul Nolan** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:49 pm

this is concerning as i've literally just bought a macintel 15inch MPB like 2 weeks ago, and was all set on getting a 410...be interesting to see how this develops as it may well help me make a decision on where to go...

ultrasource · Post by **ultrasource** » Tue Oct 03, 2006 10:55 pm

I just got rid of my 410. actually i just rid my fw bus of it... it's still on my desk. i'm using a motu 828 that made me quickly forget about m-audio. i am very happy (for now) :knocks wood: