will v6 have sidechaining?
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everyone can.
somehow everyone thinks ableton is supposed to spend time coding a feature that you can already do with freeware plugs. and god forbit if ableton charged for this feature, wow then you'd really never hear the end of it.
somehow everyone thinks ableton is supposed to spend time coding a feature that you can already do with freeware plugs. and god forbit if ableton charged for this feature, wow then you'd really never hear the end of it.
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> i am on the mac
> and I haven't seen any option to route to neodiums sidechin input
> what am I doing wrong
how could I possible know?
do you know how to route audio in Live?
In the following picture, Neodynium is on Track 3. The first audio track has an aux send (A). Aux A's output is set to the sidechain input on Nedynium. This flexible method allows you to do a submix for the sidechain input.
The second audio track's output feeds directly to the sidechain - so no audio in the master outputs, just to the sidechain.

> and I haven't seen any option to route to neodiums sidechin input
> what am I doing wrong
how could I possible know?
do you know how to route audio in Live?
In the following picture, Neodynium is on Track 3. The first audio track has an aux send (A). Aux A's output is set to the sidechain input on Nedynium. This flexible method allows you to do a submix for the sidechain input.
The second audio track's output feeds directly to the sidechain - so no audio in the master outputs, just to the sidechain.

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Well well welljackmazzotti wrote:doesn't work with waves or elemental audio
or am i wrong
no sidechain
basic stuff so important to electronic music completely lacking even in v6
in fact, THERE IS a sidechain compressor, hidden somewhere in Live, and you wouldn't believe this, it really makes wonders for dance music, but unfortunately not for anything else..
Forget about comp II for 5 minutes. Insert AutoPan, set the rate to 1/4, with a saw-waveform, set the angle to O° first. OF course remove the L to R effect, unsuitable here. INVERT the waveform with the box on the left side of the plug. Set the shape as you want it, to emulate the release of compression, while you can set the angle to 345-359 to simulate slower attacks. Increase the amount slowly until you get the amount of "comp" that you want.
it really helps. So you guys wondering why the ableton ppl didn't go for sidechain compression plugins in L6?? I think this more or less explains why!
I am not sure but I didn't find this little tip back in the forum pages... maybe someone could post a link if there's 1??
Laurent
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thats not nearly the answer anyone was looking for I don't think...
look up dualcomp
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/5769.html
it's still a bit buggy but it's a sidechain compressor for osx. it doesn't seem to do anything other than that sidechain pumping stuff. don't expect it to be a normal compressor too.
look up dualcomp
http://www.kvraudio.com/news/5769.html
it's still a bit buggy but it's a sidechain compressor for osx. it doesn't seem to do anything other than that sidechain pumping stuff. don't expect it to be a normal compressor too.
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That's just a bomb tipAirwave wrote:Well well welljackmazzotti wrote:doesn't work with waves or elemental audio
or am i wrong
no sidechain
basic stuff so important to electronic music completely lacking even in v6
in fact, THERE IS a sidechain compressor, hidden somewhere in Live, and you wouldn't believe this, it really makes wonders for dance music, but unfortunately not for anything else..
Forget about comp II for 5 minutes. Insert AutoPan, set the rate to 1/4, with a saw-waveform, set the angle to O° first. OF course remove the L to R effect, unsuitable here. INVERT the waveform with the box on the left side of the plug. Set the shape as you want it, to emulate the release of compression, while you can set the angle to 345-359 to simulate slower attacks. Increase the amount slowly until you get the amount of "comp" that you want.
it really helps. So you guys wondering why the ableton ppl didn't go for sidechain compression plugins in L6?? I think this more or less explains why!
I am not sure but I didn't find this little tip back in the forum pages... maybe someone could post a link if there's 1??
Laurent
word - I love Autopan for all kinds of reasons - actually it's my favorite plug in right now
peace
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eamoon wrote:Yep, and I've had good results with various Reaktor-based compressors. That said, if you're relying on sidechained compression to make your music pump, you should probably work harder on your choice of sounds. If your various bass sounds don't step all over each other then there's no need for fancy compression tricks, and the result will sound more solid. Unless you're going for the eurocheese sound, that is...
not a reason for you to suggest that we dont need sidechaining...if you dont want it dont say anything...not everyone makes music the way you do
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plain wrote:eamoon wrote:Yep, and I've had good results with various Reaktor-based compressors. That said, if you're relying on sidechained compression to make your music pump, you should probably work harder on your choice of sounds. If your various bass sounds don't step all over each other then there's no need for fancy compression tricks, and the result will sound more solid. Unless you're going for the eurocheese sound, that is...
not a reason for you to suggest that we dont need sidechaining...if you dont want it dont say anything...not everyone makes music the way you do
sidechaining is not a lazy trick to make use out of bad sounds, with heavy sidechaining going on you'll get a pumping pulsing sound that no other trick is going to get you. that said, if someone is using sidechaining then I wouldn't say they are relying on it to fix anything, they are simply using it for the affect that it brings.
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