Kanye West being sued by Evil Knievel

thelike5 · Post by **thelike5** » Thu Dec 14, 2006 9:57 pm

b0unce wrote:so the guys an asshole - in principle he still deserves a cut.

the world is full of assholes, and show-business of all industries probably has most of them.

junkies, drunks, thieves, perverts, rapists, murderers...ex-convicts

you might like to take a persons moral inclination into account or their criminal record, but you cant really apply it to a copyright case.

BINGO!

franknputer · Post by **franknputer** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:22 am

Trouble is, there is no copyright issue. He didn't use Knievel's footage - he just re-created something a lot like something Knievel once did. You can't copyright a concept.

franknputer · Post by **franknputer** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 2:27 am

O yeah, it helps to RTFA...

OK, so it's trademark infringement. Very different from copyright. With that. he might just be screwed, although it's a pretty grey area IMO. Knievel is gonna have a hard time proving any substantial loss or damages, but Kanye would have been much safer had he not intentionally misspelled his (Knievel's) name & stuck it up on the screen.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 3:31 am

when did everyone become so pedantic ?
copyright trademark - its all the same for the sake of my argument, my point was just because he's an asshole doesnt mean he has no rights in this case.

carry on,

melocoton · Post by **melocoton** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:38 am

It's obviously a parody though. I don't think Knievel has a leg to stand on and this is just a desperate grasp for publicity. I just find it interesting that people hate Kanye so much now that they'll defend a thieving wife-beating loser like Knievel over a creative rights issue like this. If it were anybody else but Kanye you'd all be defending his right to parody.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:51 am

its not like it was a skit on a comedy sketch show

it was the full length video for a major-release single, getting ridiculous airplay all across the globe. It totally and un-deniably ripped off knievels trademark...not even vaguely, but quite specifically. I seen some footage of the original stunt coincidentally - and kanye ripped it off big time.

sometimes you get away with it, sometimes you dont. bastard or not, knievel is a player in showbusiness, he went to alot of trouble to create his trademark, and pull off the stunts and make the videos......ffs give him his dues. maybe his kids/grandkids will inherit the money or something.

I doubt anyone's trying to bankrupt kanye, knievel just wants a piece of the action. and why not ? oh ya...he's a prick.

b0unce · Post by **b0unce** » Fri Dec 15, 2006 5:57 am

and someone should crucify kanye and get it over with....and ps, is it just me - or does every single one of his verses sound the same ?

die kanye dieeeee!