Importing live set to new live set Question

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:00 pm

Hello fellow live users.

I'm running Live 5, on an apple powerbook, with an external firewire audiophile sound card.

The songs which I have created contain multiple midi and audio tracks. Each of the songs is saved as a SET. I have midi and mixer automation programed on some of the tracks.
Now I want to create a new SET and import my songs (midi, audio and automation) into it, in order to create a SET of songs which I can play live.
Is it possible for me to import a complete SET (including midi, audio and automation) into a new SET?

Kind regards,

Bojan and Olaf
www.dumbvox.nl
www.myspace.com/dumbvoxmusic

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:03 pm

mm i think i might have posted this in the wrong section.

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:20 pm

yes, browse to the songs within live, then load them, then wait and wait and wait until they have loaded.

You might want to consider that for each song you have probably used a high proportion of your computer's resources, and so loading several of them at once is only going to increase that. This could be a problem. You might need to consider strategies for dealing with this, such as bouncing to audio.

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 4:48 pm

Thanks mate, I will give it a go now

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 5:16 pm

well it's not exatly wat we were looking for, but thanks for the reply.
we want to import the .als files into a new liveset. It doesn't seem to be supported in version 5, don't know if it's supported in 6.

I think I might have to load the live sets seperately, but we've been freezing the audio tracks and that has shortened the loading time considerably, max 7 seconds for loading the sets.
I will be taking my MPC with me anyways and will play some 10 sec samples between the sets so that will bridge the silence

We only play with the midi gear live anyway, so it's not all that of a hassle.

I guess we will have to build the new live set and then set up all the mixer automation, eq, etc. no time for that until after the next gig.

Bummer but it's still a pretty damn good program for live. I'm thinking of upgrading to 6, just have a slight cash flow problem at the moment, just bought myself some new gear. will have to wait a little before i upgrade. Gotta eat you know

Thanks Again!!

Olaf

vinkalmann · Post by **vinkalmann** » Wed Mar 21, 2007 11:14 pm

This should work for you.

1. Save and close the set that you want to import.
2. Open a new set.
3. In Live's browser, browse to where you saved the project in step 1.
4. Click on the set in the browser and drag it into the current project.

I know that this will bring in everything when one is using arrangement view. If you are using session view then you may get different results. Note that you can also drag in individual tracks and their automation by expanding the .als file in the browser and then dragging the tracks in individually.

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 9:08 am

Yeah, I've tried that.
Ableton live 5 will let me drag the .als but won't let me drop it in a new project.
There is a triangle in front of the files, but when i click it it doesn't expand the .als.

Are you using 6? on a Mac? was it working for you in 5?

maybe i should upgrade then?

Eat rice with ketchup instead of fancy food

Cheers!

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 3:32 pm

There definitely has been much improvement on this in Live 6, but I really did think that you could drag in an .als file in Live 5. Unfortunately I can't test at the moment

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Thu Mar 22, 2007 6:30 pm

longjohns wrote:There definitely has been much improvement on this in Live 6, but I really did think that you could drag in an .als file in Live 5. Unfortunately I can't test at the moment

So you can tel me with surtainty that this works in 6?

Cheers,

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:56 am

With certainty even

What concerns me is that I know this is possible in live 5, in fact I'm reading it in the manual right now. So I don't understand why you've not been successful doing it.

To drag in a whole set, you have to drag it into the drop area to the right of the tracks in session, or below the tracks in Arrange. Otherwise it will replace the existing tracks, if you drop on top of them.

So to pull in a set with 8 tracks, into a set already with 8 tracks, you'll end up with 16 tracks, for example

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:01 am

Also I must admit that after reading the live 5 manual, most of the "much improvement" I was thinking of must have been introduced in 5, not 6

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 4:19 am

mmm, I'll be in the studio 2morrow, will give it another shot.
It would be great if i could pull it of before my next gig.
It would save some time loading the sets and let me concentrate on other thing, like patch changes on my old analog gear.

Thanks for your help

Olaf

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 12:49 pm

MY music mate just wrote to the people at Ableton about our set building troubles. They say that it is not possible to do what we want to do using version 5.
We are downloading the upgrade to 6.5 now.

Thanks for the help

olafalafel · Post by **olafalafel** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:06 pm

well I upgraded an now all that was said above works

I guess i shouldn't rely to much on my stingy dutch blood and rely more on my crazy Irish blood

Well, still have much work to do, so I should get crackin'

Thanks for the help!

longjohns · Post by **longjohns** » Fri Mar 23, 2007 3:10 pm

I don't think I was much help but I'm glad you've got it working