Slide Notes in the MidiSeq/Editor

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Slide Notes in the MidiSeq/Editor

Post by Vaishiyas » Mon May 28, 2007 3:07 pm

Hello Folks,


as it in the topicname listet,how to make slidenotes in the midi editor?

thanx

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Post by longjohns » Mon May 28, 2007 3:21 pm

As far as I know it's not really a function of the sequencer, it's a function of the instrument which it plays.

So you need to enable some portamento on your instr..

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Post by Vaishiyas » Mon May 28, 2007 3:55 pm

@ longjohns

thanx for fast repley, its not that what iam looking for coz i dont wanna have the portamento/slide effect on each played note.

...so if it is not included in the seqeuenzer i have to record and automation for the portamento,but an writeable SLIDENOTe will be much easier :-)

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Re: Slide Notes in the MidiSeq/Editor

Post by 3dot... » Mon May 28, 2007 3:57 pm

Vaishiyas wrote:Hello Folks,


as it in the topicname listet,how to make slidenotes in the midi editor?

thanx
What's a 'slidenote'?

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Post by Vaishiyas » Mon May 28, 2007 4:02 pm

@ 3dot

its like when u slide from one Note to the other (effect is like the typical portamento sound)
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Post by 3dot... » Tue May 29, 2007 6:14 am

do you mean 'glide', cuz that's a function of the synth you use....like portamento....
you could use the envelopes to draw pitch changes in your clips....

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Post by TrierMusic » Tue May 29, 2007 6:03 pm

3dot... wrote:do you mean 'glide', cuz that's a function of the synth you use....like portamento....
you could use the envelopes to draw pitch changes in your clips....
I think this is it - you just want to draw an envelope for pitch on your clip. Move the envelope from the start of one note to near the next note and then snap it back up so it doesn't affect the other note's pitch...

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Re: Slide Notes in the MidiSeq/Editor

Post by Newecho » Tue May 29, 2007 8:50 pm

Vaishiyas wrote:Hello Folks,


as it in the topicname listet,how to make slidenotes in the midi editor?

thanx
To my knowledge, Ableton's MIDI editor does not support setting up "glide"/"portamento". The only software MIDI editor I think of that supports this is the Piano Roll editor in FL Studio.

It's much more common to control glide within instruments. Simpler, Operatator, and Sampler devices support this via the "Glide" parameter. The parameter is in the "Pitch/Osc" Tab for Sampler.

To modulate the depth of glide for a midi clip in session view, you'll have to use clip automation to draw a "Time Glide" envelope. In session view you could draw a clip, or assign this parameter to knob on your control surface and record it in real-time.
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Post by R.J.Dubya » Wed May 30, 2007 1:30 am

Many synths have different settings for glide that makes it either glide all the time or just when you play legato.

Easiest way to be able to write it in the sequencer is to set it to glide when a note is held (legato style), and simply extend a note past the next one in the sequencer, which will force a glide. To avoid a glide, just end the note before the next one. Operators does this by default I think.
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Post by mooncaine » Wed May 30, 2007 6:59 am

Draw in pitch bend in the MIDI notes area of the clip [dunno what it's called].

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Post by Vaishiyas » Wed May 30, 2007 7:57 am

@ mooncaine

thats alltogh a cool way!
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Post by Idonotlikebroccoli » Wed May 30, 2007 9:22 am

It would be cooler if it could be done the same way as in FL Studio. There is no on/off automation in session view, so you can't automate portamento/glide on and off within a clip unfortenately.

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Post by smartass303 » Wed May 30, 2007 9:59 am

Moin Hannes,
na auch im Forum unterwegs?

Grüße aus HH,

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Post by mooncaine » Wed May 30, 2007 4:10 pm

Vaishiyas wrote:@ mooncaine
thats alltogh a cool way!
I'm glad you like it, and I hope it helps you. :)

Remember that one can click to add points on that Pitch Bend graph, so if one wants the pitch bend to "curve", just add more points. If one wants to bend pitch up, add points above the halfway line; to bend down, add points below.

The example pictured bends up towards the MIDI note shown. It's as if I held down the pitch wheel on my keyboard before I played the note, then released the wheel while the note played, to make the note's pitch come up to its "normal" pitch.

If there's no good tutorial on different kinds of pitch bends, maybe I could make one. I'm a guitar player, and I can think of a handful of different kinds of pitch bend that I use often. Players of other instruments bend pitch in ways that are unique to their instruments, sometimes -- a harmonica is a good example.

Without a tutorial, though, one can just record a MIDI part with some different kinds of pitch bends, then look at the Pitch Bend graph to see the "shape" of the pitch bends.

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