Roland v Moog (Am I deaf or mental)
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Roland v Moog (Am I deaf or mental)
Alright.
I went to Turnkey braced to buy a Little Phatty. But I listened to a few other keyboards while I was there and I way preferred the SH-101
The bass sounded as good to me, it has the cutoff and resonance filters for tweaking, I found instant gratification in the arpeggiator (just press the 'arpeggiator on' button), it can all be edited as a VSTi and it was HALF THE PRICE of the LP so I wouldn't even feel guilty buying it.
Plus I had a Roland electric piano for about 20 years and I loved it.
So am I missing something? Does anyone else here use an SH-101?
Thank you!
I went to Turnkey braced to buy a Little Phatty. But I listened to a few other keyboards while I was there and I way preferred the SH-101
The bass sounded as good to me, it has the cutoff and resonance filters for tweaking, I found instant gratification in the arpeggiator (just press the 'arpeggiator on' button), it can all be edited as a VSTi and it was HALF THE PRICE of the LP so I wouldn't even feel guilty buying it.
Plus I had a Roland electric piano for about 20 years and I loved it.
So am I missing something? Does anyone else here use an SH-101?
Thank you!
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hey mate
i was playing a jp 8000 and a voyager next to each other the other night.
the moog shits on softsynths, but the jp 8000 which has a similar sound engine from what ive read to the sh201 was holding its own.
the jp had a precision the moogs can't achieve.
but with the moog, once you start usin sounds other than a basic bass patch and actually explore recording multiple layers of the moog etc, it becomes an untouchable beast.
some of the differences are that the moog will sound deep and fat across most notes whereas the digital stuff tends to often have a focal area where the sound is as you adjusted then, notes can have different behaviours.
on some digital synths you can just play a deep bass patch and play up and down all the notes in an octave, if you dont hear a difference in 'phatness' between the notes, then you have a pretty good synth + filter.
i think every studio should have at least one decent analogue synth and one decent digital synth.
get them both
i was playing a jp 8000 and a voyager next to each other the other night.
the moog shits on softsynths, but the jp 8000 which has a similar sound engine from what ive read to the sh201 was holding its own.
the jp had a precision the moogs can't achieve.
but with the moog, once you start usin sounds other than a basic bass patch and actually explore recording multiple layers of the moog etc, it becomes an untouchable beast.
some of the differences are that the moog will sound deep and fat across most notes whereas the digital stuff tends to often have a focal area where the sound is as you adjusted then, notes can have different behaviours.
on some digital synths you can just play a deep bass patch and play up and down all the notes in an octave, if you dont hear a difference in 'phatness' between the notes, then you have a pretty good synth + filter.
i think every studio should have at least one decent analogue synth and one decent digital synth.
get them both
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Get the Phatty. If you want a Roland Virtual Analog, get a generation 1 V-Synth - same v. analog engine as the SH-201, I believe (somebody correct me if I am wrong here), and since its discontinued, they can be found on the cheap. Or go totally softsynth. Personally, I can't see the point in buying virtual analog hardware (perhaps virus are an exception, I don't know, but I still wouldn't buy one).brightonalex wrote:Thanks, I can see your point. Maybe I should have another listen.
Now I'm reading reviews that say "get a Microkorg" or "get an Ion" and its put me in a bad mood.
The one thing I really like about the Roland is it doesn't have a screen! Just knobs, and I'm a big knobman.
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My first was a Yamaha CS1X.
I had a Dave Smith Evolver (no keyboard) for a bit but I sold it because it didn't do quite what I expected.
Also I'm no good at programming or anything, just quite good at writing tunes!
I've been using loads of different soft synths, but I miss having something big to play with (queue nubulae again..)
I was going to buy a Voyager rackmount because Turnkey had some for £1000, but they all sold out in a couple of days
I think it might have been too difficult for me anyway.
So then I thought maybe I'd compromise and go for a Moog LP, but like I said the Roland made me smile straight away....
I think I need to go back for another listen!!
I had a Dave Smith Evolver (no keyboard) for a bit but I sold it because it didn't do quite what I expected.
Also I'm no good at programming or anything, just quite good at writing tunes!
I've been using loads of different soft synths, but I miss having something big to play with (queue nubulae again..)
I was going to buy a Voyager rackmount because Turnkey had some for £1000, but they all sold out in a couple of days
I think it might have been too difficult for me anyway.
So then I thought maybe I'd compromise and go for a Moog LP, but like I said the Roland made me smile straight away....
I think I need to go back for another listen!!
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the LP didn't give me as much a wobbly as the voyager did.. totally different beasts all 3 machines, but i reckon the moog if u really care about ur bass and squidgy sounds and the sh201 if you want a more of an all-rounder, but i think u will outgrow your 201 in no time...brightonalex wrote:My first was a Yamaha CS1X.
I had a Dave Smith Evolver (no keyboard) for a bit but I sold it because it didn't do quite what I expected.
Also I'm no good at programming or anything, just quite good at writing tunes!
I've been using loads of different soft synths, but I miss having something big to play with (queue nubulae again..)
I was going to buy a Voyager rackmount because Turnkey had some for £1000, but they all sold out in a couple of days
I think it might have been too difficult for me anyway.
So then I thought maybe I'd compromise and go for a Moog LP, but like I said the Roland made me smile straight away....
I think I need to go back for another listen!!
its quite simple .. if you already had an analogue synth, id say get the 201, but you dont.. so get a moog
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i liked the 201 more than the little phatty as well. i just got a bit bored with the kind of basic-ness of the lp. maybe it doesn't help that i'm not that good at programming. i didn7t really get the point of haveing led rings, but not endless knobs, or not having dedicated controls for the ADSR or whatever (i know it's to keep costs down, but still). and only having a lowpass filter...
though the thing with the 201 was that i felt like i was going to break it. those little sliders for the envelopes.
yeah, don7t get a microkorg (not that you were going to). i liked mine when i bought it, and still do, but not having a knob-per-feature gets on my tits.
though the thing with the 201 was that i felt like i was going to break it. those little sliders for the envelopes.
yeah, don7t get a microkorg (not that you were going to). i liked mine when i bought it, and still do, but not having a knob-per-feature gets on my tits.
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