VST upgrade, older sessions can't find them..

soulnoize · Post by **soulnoize** » Thu Jul 26, 2007 10:21 pm

Hi guys. I recently upgraded to absynth4 and battery 3. When opening older sessions, these don't load, instead ableton says it failed to load VST absynth2 and battery 3. It doesn't recognize the newer versions as being the same thing. How can i take care of this?
Thanks!

Rockocop · Post by **Rockocop** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:11 pm

Are you using Mac or PC?

rockocop

soulnoize · Post by **soulnoize** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:55 pm

i'm on an intel imac.

ewistrand · Post by **ewistrand** » Fri Jul 27, 2007 11:41 pm

Your old sessions won't recognize the new plugins; they have different plugin IDs than their predecessors.

The only way to fix it is to install both the older and newer versions and Live on a machine that will run the older versions (which your IntelMac can't do as a Mac; it can as a Windows box via bootcamp) and change them there.

ew

soulnoize · Post by **soulnoize** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 5:44 pm

That's kinda crazy don't you think? In pro tools/logic i can open my old sessions just fine with newer versions of my plugins. So in 5 years i will need absynth 2 till 10 resting on my computer to be able to open all my Live sessions? I can't believe that. There must be another way. Help anyone?

ewistrand · Post by **ewistrand** » Sat Jul 28, 2007 7:09 pm

There isn't. Trust me.

ew

soulnoize · Post by **soulnoize** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 10:50 am

There isn't. Trust me.

ew

I understand.
So now i lost all my old sessions. Great.
Is this an ableton live or NI 'feature' ?

ewistrand · Post by **ewistrand** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 3:52 pm

It's something you're going to run into if you use different plugin IDs for new versions. It actually makes sense to do it that way if you stop and think about it.

There might be incompatibilities with other plugins or something along those lines. Let's say you made a Live set with the older version. You update to the newer version and open your set, using some of the newer features. Your set gets corrupted, or some other incompatibility causes Live to crash. You may never get the set open again using either the old or the new version of the plugin. The old one will look at the new features and say "WTF?" and give you warnings about needing a newer version, and the newer version won't run.

ew

soulnoize · Post by **soulnoize** » Sun Jul 29, 2007 4:23 pm

Ok thanks for your answers.
It's just that i'm used to using protools, and plugins are only identified by their name and not their version.
(my friend can open the same sessions although he has different versions of some plugins)
Lucky for me i still have my old G4 with all the older versions as well. Copying presets is the way to go i think... ?