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get a real compressor! 3630 WARRIORS UNITE
i just started using an outboard compressor (cheapie) and the difference it makes is beyond words.
get a real compressah!
get a real compressah!
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I have recorded while using an outboard compressor as an amplifier only, for my hardware synth only whenever neeeded. But how do I configure the routing in LIve if I want to use the compressor on already recorded track or tracks during mixdown?
"It's more fun to compute". Yeah, when you know what you're doing!
this i have wondered too... it seemes very messy!! its making me think i need a mixing desk then too!! i will be 100% hardware before i know itGaubie wrote:I have recorded while using an outboard compressor as an amplifier only, for my hardware synth only whenever neeeded. But how do I configure the routing in LIve if I want to use the compressor on already recorded track or tracks during mixdown?
Piece of cake. Send your combination of tracks into a sub-mix track. Route (using Ext. out) that out of your audio device to your compressor. Create another track with Ext in through your audio device from your compressor. Monitor, record/render. Voila. Very easy.
You have to look at it as an insert, otherwise you will get phase issues if mixing compressed signal with uncompressed signal. Ableton still has some work to do for integrating external effects and compensating for delay. You cannot do it manually.
I have a Trakker that I need to use more and more. I still have to get around the issue of going through an extra round of conversion.
You have to look at it as an insert, otherwise you will get phase issues if mixing compressed signal with uncompressed signal. Ableton still has some work to do for integrating external effects and compensating for delay. You cannot do it manually.
I have a Trakker that I need to use more and more. I still have to get around the issue of going through an extra round of conversion.
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"You cannot do it manually"
Doesn't every single track have a +- delay option at the bottom of the mixer? I'm pretty certain you CAN do it manually, and much easier than other apps where you have to nudge the actual track.
Doesn't every single track have a +- delay option at the bottom of the mixer? I'm pretty certain you CAN do it manually, and much easier than other apps where you have to nudge the actual track.
feyshay wrote:Piece of cake. Send your combination of tracks into a sub-mix track. Route (using Ext. out) that out of your audio device to your compressor. Create another track with Ext in through your audio device from your compressor. Monitor, record/render. Voila. Very easy.
You have to look at it as an insert, otherwise you will get phase issues if mixing compressed signal with uncompressed signal. Ableton still has some work to do for integrating external effects and compensating for delay. You cannot do it manually.
I have a Trakker that I need to use more and more. I still have to get around the issue of going through an extra round of conversion.
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re using outbd gear on tracks, rather than final mix, yes, absolutely. the high end dual channel compressor for use on final mix is in many ways a different beast from standard mono compressor/mic pre. what a high-end compressor will do for vox, guitar, synths, is somewhat xtraordinary (even with mediocore synths or mics or whatever).
Give it a try. I'll bet you won't be able to do it without phase problems. A mere several hundredths of a millisecond can cause problems.sleepwalkermusic wrote:"You cannot do it manually"
Doesn't every single track have a +- delay option at the bottom of the mixer? I'm pretty certain you CAN do it manually, and much easier than other apps where you have to nudge the actual track.
feyshay wrote:Piece of cake. Send your combination of tracks into a sub-mix track. Route (using Ext. out) that out of your audio device to your compressor. Create another track with Ext in through your audio device from your compressor. Monitor, record/render. Voila. Very easy.
You have to look at it as an insert, otherwise you will get phase issues if mixing compressed signal with uncompressed signal. Ableton still has some work to do for integrating external effects and compensating for delay. You cannot do it manually.
I have a Trakker that I need to use more and more. I still have to get around the issue of going through an extra round of conversion.
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The old Alesis Micro Limiter ( i believe it's now discontinued) is awesome for bass and synth.Cheap if you can find 'em.bytheriver wrote:I've been thinking of getting something to do this with, any other recommendations for cheap hardware compressors?
Something for techno/house drums and basslines
The ART Pro VLA is my absolute favorite compressor for everything else.
Honorable mention goes to the also discontinued Focusright TrakMaster. I think they make a different version that isn't the same.
IMHO the 3630 is pretty worthless compared to any other real outboard compressor and I would still take my Nomad Factory plug-in stuff over a stack of 3630's. Useful as a gate though.