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Discuss music production with Ableton Live.
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Post by OvertoneZero » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:57 pm

Angstrom wrote:
OvertoneZero wrote:Any audio clip overdubbing functionality?
no,
and it's boo hoo from me on that too.
yes, QQ indeed

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Post by siliconarc » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:12 pm

Angstrom wrote:
garyboozy wrote:
Meef Chaloin wrote:is there something for folder tracks? Looks like its possible with the new drum racks but can you do it with normal tracks?
yea that was the first thing i thought when i saw the Drum Racks vid, but no, the beta doesnt have any track grouping options. maybe it'll make the final version..
the in-line mixer is different than folder tracks - think of it as a way to view a rack. You can view normal instrument racks that way too, not just drumracks
yea i see that, but it seems to do what we've been asking of folder/group tracks; individual efects on each track in the group, plus group master effects. surely they can't NOT include groups now! its already there, almost

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Post by rozling » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:18 pm

Gah had to do a frickin' hard reboot! That is sweet! That was a real annoyance but... yes! My tired brain is not seeing all the possibilities but ... could you do it as groups??? I'm gonna find out...

about the 128 parameters thing: <edit> I can't find more than 128. Maybe I'm just dumb though.
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Post by Angstrom » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:19 pm

Autofilter has received some work, it now uses interpolated values when you map directly to the filter cutoff... it used to be all jaggy when used as a wah. The envelope and lfo are smoothed too.

Also , now it is bi-polar, so envelopes can go negative on a signal - which is pretty useful when combined with side-chain.

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Post by rozling » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:20 pm

@ Garyboozy: Exactly what I was thinking. At the moment I'm not sure that I'd bother with the upgrade but folder tracks would be one extra gold star on the messy painted Ableton pinafore...

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Post by rozling » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:31 pm

everyone wrote:Please!!!!!

What about the 128 recordable midi automation parameters. Are there more in Live 7???
Sorry - just confirmed with Bidule that Kontakt 2 vst has 512 parameters but only 128 show up in this beta.

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Post by kb420 » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:35 pm

rozling wrote:
everyone wrote:Please!!!!!

What about the 128 recordable midi automation parameters. Are there more in Live 7???
Sorry - just confirmed with Bidule that Kontakt 2 vst has 512 parameters but only 128 show up in this beta.

512 parameters!?!?!??!!?

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Post by Machinate » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:37 pm

kb420 wrote:
rozling wrote:
everyone wrote:Please!!!!!

What about the 128 recordable midi automation parameters. Are there more in Live 7???
Sorry - just confirmed with Bidule that Kontakt 2 vst has 512 parameters but only 128 show up in this beta.

512 parameters!?!?!??!!?

DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My maxMSP app already has over 2000... 512 is nothing.

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Post by rozling » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:40 pm

Yah the annoying thing with Kontakt (v.2 anyway) is when you open up a preset from the library you discover that none of these are fecking mapped to anything! So you have to go through the whole thing and map them yourself. I did it recently. It's not fun.

Back on topic: Did you notice there is an option to 'Rename plugin preset' in VSTs? Even in ones which just show up as 'default' i.e. Live cannot cycle through its presets. Interesting...

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Post by Tone Deft » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:41 pm

meanwhile... back on topic...

drum racks are SOOO well done!! large variety of mute groups, EZ to layer drums, break them out, nice visual rep of what's filled in and the rackable potential of them is stunning.
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Post by earwax » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:44 pm

what the sample engine part of the drum rack though ?
do samples get loaded in simplers ?
what kind of glabal/specific options are there ?

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Post by Angstrom » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:46 pm

you can choose what you want the slices to load into, sampler, simpler, whatever. it's all configurable.

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Post by earwax » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:50 pm

Angstrom wrote:you can choose what you want the slices to load into, sampler, simpler, whatever. it's all configurable.
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Post by Machinate » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:52 pm

Tone Deft wrote:meanwhile... back on topic...

drum racks are SOOO well done!! large variety of mute groups, EZ to layer drums, break them out, nice visual rep of what's filled in and the rackable potential of them is stunning.
totally agree with that. Right-clicking any instrument also gives you the context menu option "group to drum rack" for starting a percussion "group" if you will. Very handy way to collect all your little synth bits into one midi-clip and track.

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Post by deva » Thu Oct 04, 2007 11:52 pm

earwax wrote:
Angstrom wrote:you can choose what you want the slices to load into, sampler, simpler, whatever. it's all configurable.
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