Host automation with stylus RMX

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 1:07 pm

i think its definitly lives limitation, because for example in cubase you can record ALL knob automation when you tweak the plugin with the mouse.

its an old thing. again ableton, please remove this 128 parameters limitation...

geo · Post by **geo** » Fri Sep 14, 2007 6:09 pm

yeah, but even let's say with 128 parameters, you would expect them at least those 128 to work, not 5 of them! Is it so hard to implement? I mean the 128 parameters are there, it's just that they are completely useless at the moment as far as Stylus in concerned.

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 7:22 am

i am the first one who wants all of the parameters recordable by mouseaction.

but mind you, when you assign a controller to one, you can record automation of all!

geo · Post by **geo** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:20 am

yeah, that's true, obviously if you have enough and the right kind of knobs/controls to particularly automate what you want, you can also use one control to automate more that one parameter and/or invert their directional behaviour. I just wonder why was it so difficult to implement something that has already and easily been implemented with other plugins. And that's EVEN those 128 parameters which are more that enough, at least those, there should be a way to assign anyone of those to a particular parameter from 0 to 127 a bit like, let's say, NI Kontakt or Battery does. It's not rocket science.

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 9:30 am

one way around this until ableton (will fix this for shure (fingers crossed)) is, that you tweak it live with the mouse and record it at once into a new track.
eases the pain from too much automation control afterwards....

geo · Post by **geo** » Sat Sep 15, 2007 8:12 pm

True, I tend to bounce to audio anyway, since it's getting to heavy for my computer a lot of times, anyway...

Jamie · Post by **Jamie** » Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:01 am

I know this is an old post but this problem still exists in Live and it really limits the usefulness of Stylus VST in Live. When I run on a Mac using AU the automation works flawlessly, when I am running in Windows the automation doesn't work at all and none of the paramtes show up in the controller list (track volume, pan, filter, etc..). Can you guys at Ableton please fix this?

Live 6.x

zigzag · Post by **zigzag** » Sat May 17, 2008 8:18 pm

has anyone yet figured out if we can record automation from Stylus RMX in Live 7.xx?

If not, does anyone have the midi cc map of RMX? I just bought RMX, cannot find the cc map and getting ready to jump from the window (using the groove will make things easier i guess).

thanks to all!!!

klagga · Post by **klagga** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:36 pm

Anything happened with this limitation lately? I´m considering buying Live to use with RMX, and this would be a serious problem for me.

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:50 pm

the 128 midi parameter limitation is still there.

stutter · Post by **stutter** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 9:54 pm

it has been hinted that the next version of Live may have a method allowing you to choose which 128 parameters are displayed, probably (hopefully) vstxml support.
However, this will still provide a bit of a problem with Stylus RMX, since
(a) it is one of the few plugs where you might want to access more than 128 parameters (i.e. 8 banks of 16 parameters)
and more significantly (b) Stylus' parameters are not named, so you will have to figure out which of the 600-odd "unnamed" parameters are the ones you want to use.

It could still be possible to do. I've got an excel spreadsheet which has most of the parameters identified, it's just the slog of creating a vstxml to match. It's the sort of thing Spectrasonics might do themselves if their's enough interest or pressure.

klagga - in other words, you will have some problems.

blaugruen7 · Post by **blaugruen7** » Fri Dec 05, 2008 10:19 pm

stutter wrote:it has been hinted that the next version of Live may have a method allowing you to choose which 128 parameters are displayed, probably (hopefully) vstxml support.
However, this will still provide a bit of a problem with Stylus RMX, since
(a) it is one of the few plugs where you might want to access more than 128 parameters (i.e. 8 banks of 16 parameters)
and more significantly (b) Stylus' parameters are not named, so you will have to figure out which of the 600-odd "unnamed" parameters are the ones you want to use.

It could still be possible to do. I've got an excel spreadsheet which has most of the parameters identified, it's just the slog of creating a vstxml to match. It's the sort of thing Spectrasonics might do themselves if their's enough interest or pressure.

klagga - in other words, you will have some problems.

oh, no.

not waiting for years and then only be able to choose some 128 parameters of stylus 20 000 paraemeters.

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