Upcoming Novation Remote SL changes
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Yes, with plug-in automap template, you can completely customize what controls are mapped. That's the point of it really. I still don't like to use it though. I'd rather just use a mix of the ableton automap and regular templates.Timur wrote:You can always map regular CCs to the controls, but you cannot customize which values are shown via Automap by Live. Actually I don't know if you can do that via Plugin template cause I didn't dig into it yet
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any reason why you prefer the regular templates over the automapped/wrapped ones? i assume they just send standard cc data, so i imagine you don't get any parameter feedback from the vsti for knob pickup mode to work or for displaying values on the lcd?R.J.Dubya wrote:I still don't like to use it though. I'd rather just use a mix of the ableton automap and regular templates.
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the problem i have found with the automapping of plugins is not all automation can be recorded into live. you are still stuck to only the 128 parameters that are exposed.
so if you map a knob to a parameter that is not exposed in live and try to record that automation you still get nothing. that's where regular templates come in handy because you can midi learn your synths and then record automaton to any parameter that you can midi learn.
as for the automapping of plugins i was a bit disappointed to find this out. i thought it would be more like ni's kore. with kore you have up to eight pages of knobs/buttons exposed - so whatever plugin parameters you map to those buttons/knobs can be automated.
on a side note though i love the live automapping - makes it completely worthwhile.
so if you map a knob to a parameter that is not exposed in live and try to record that automation you still get nothing. that's where regular templates come in handy because you can midi learn your synths and then record automaton to any parameter that you can midi learn.
as for the automapping of plugins i was a bit disappointed to find this out. i thought it would be more like ni's kore. with kore you have up to eight pages of knobs/buttons exposed - so whatever plugin parameters you map to those buttons/knobs can be automated.
on a side note though i love the live automapping - makes it completely worthwhile.
Hehe, I am blessed with both Kore and the SL and a foot-controller. Next thing on the list is a Padkontrol with something like Total Kontrolpackage (but customized for my own needs and mixure of hardware).
Worst disadvantage of the Kore controller is that you cannot map any of its knobs to Midi events, I would love to use the knobs for Midi control.
Worst disadvantage of the Kore controller is that you cannot map any of its knobs to Midi events, I would love to use the knobs for Midi control.
You can already tap your tempo via Remote SL, I provided a howto here:
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ight=tempo
http://www.ableton.com/forum/viewtopic. ... ight=tempo
I'm ready to buy the Remote SL 25 now but now I'm thinking about waiting as well.pat the dog wrote:(and maybe even hold out for namm)
Are there any rumors of a new similar/improved product?
Should I wait for namm?
If a new product is announced at namm, will it still take some months to arrive, you think?
Also, the performance of the top row of "endless encoder" knobs is flakey than a mufuggah!! They are designed to feel a subtle "click" as you turn them. Each step on mine can vary wildly from one "click" to the next.
yep +1 those pads are utter bollocks. even the pads on the cheapest shittiest drum machines on the planet far outclass the shit ones on remote sl. Other than that I think its a pretty fucking amazing bit of kit though
I am thinking of tearing mine apart, soldering some REAL encoders (and faders!) in and remounting it in a new box. On paper it's a great unit. In the real world, it definitely feels like a bit of a toy.
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this appeared yesterday on the novation yahoo group. i don't think it's the same update that we've been discussing here but it may be of interest:
http://mail.focusrite.com/beta/remote_sl/ReMOTE SL Template Editor build 8187 Released on 12-04-07 11:02
Template Editor update for ReMOTE SL and ReMOTE ZeRO SL including the following changes/fixes:
- Separate editors for keyboard versions of the SL and the ZeRO SL.
- Keyboard zone MIDI channel now transmitted correctly to SL.
- Drumpad button type options now changed to read 'velocity' instead of 'momentary'.
- 'Upload Factory Settings' dump updated to include latest set of SL factory templates.
- 'Note On/Off' removed from available control type options for drumpads.
- Snapshot values now correctly recognised for templates dumped from SL.
- Fixed crash in Mac version caused by changing button type.
- Support added for REL1, REL2 and APOT encoder types.
- Template name max. length increased to 34 characters.
- USB ports now listed numerically, not alphabetically.
- USB port 3 now available to select in editor.
- Range of Device ID parameter extended to 0-127.
- Bulk dump upload time reduced.
- KeybChan now uploaded to SL correctly when set to follow ComnChan.
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Dag...
I was kinda hoping that they would make it easier to manage the default Automap setups. Changing them up now is such a PITA that I don't even bother to use Automap.
Using it mainly with NI Reaktor, it's more time-consuming than anything.
Not really a "user-friendly", performance-enhancing feature if it's a pain for the user to reconfigure to taste!
Using it mainly with NI Reaktor, it's more time-consuming than anything.
Not really a "user-friendly", performance-enhancing feature if it's a pain for the user to reconfigure to taste!
Sorry for asking again but do you think we can expect a new improved midi controller like the Remote sl series a Namm?Soarer wrote:I'm ready to buy the Remote SL 25 now but now I'm thinking about waiting as well.pat the dog wrote:(and maybe even hold out for namm)
Are there any rumors of a new similar/improved product?
Should I wait for namm?
If a new product is announced at namm, will it still take some months to arrive, you think?
Namm is soon but I'm really longing for a controller at this time...
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