Myspace Users beware

Dominik · Post by **Dominik** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:11 pm

Music is little more than marketing costs anymore

that's because usually the lawyer's job generally is bredless since some years.and it is still stagnating.
in music this is not happened, because you buy music after you listen to it.
it this a value?
come on neb.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:13 pm

^ I'm not sure I understand...but I think this was a slam.

Dominik · Post by **Dominik** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:15 pm

I'm not sure I understand...but I think this was a slam.

small slam.
all in all.never say never.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:18 pm

Dominik wrote:
I'm not sure I understand...but I think this was a slam.
small slam.
all in all.never say never.

*hugs*

also, go fuck yourself.

*hugs*

beats me · Post by **beats me** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:36 pm

I think people are assuming that the public thinks something isn't quality if it's free. A great track is a great track regardless. Even if people did pay for it they'll most likely be done with it in 3 months or less because by then it's old and there's a lot more out there. The mentality of the average joe is reaching that of the DJ. So to scare the pants off you even more, not only do you need to make your music available for download (pay or for free) but you need to try to produce at a semi-frequent regular interval. Nobody is going to care that you spent 3 months to get the mix perfect if you only release 4 songs a year.

But whatever, go ahead and freak out that somebody actually wants to download your music.

Dominik · Post by **Dominik** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:48 pm

Music is little more than marketing costs anymore

i listen this allot of times.
it is very common to talk generally negative about having success with music or not.
if this happens,don't you think it isn't a full time job to create a life from music?
no time for a regular job,full day work and effort on musik...so what is it?

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 4:56 pm

Dominik wrote:
Music is little more than marketing costs anymore
i listen this allot of times.
it is very common to talk generally negative about having success with music or not.
if this happens,don't you think it isn't a full time job to create a life from music?
no time for a regular job,full day work and effort on musik...so what is it?

It has nothing to do with success or failure of a musician. And it's neither negative nor positive. It simply IS the paradigm shift to the current reality, and those who fight it, be it the artist, the music industry, or the legal authorities, are the ones who suffer.

The bottom line is that far fewer people pay for music. So when it becomes an audience expectation that music is free, then you just can't expect to make a huge amount of money from selling music anymore. This is also consistent with anything technological...we used to have to pay for long distance phone calls too. Now, the expectation is that it's free. We used to have to pay for cell phones. Now we expect they are free...so how do companies make money?...by signing up to contracts. Even that will change, as players like Google come in and commoditize cell phone service plans. The music paradigm is no different. With technology, there is a lot more music a lot more artists, and a lot easier ways to distribute music that requires no cost to the end user. Bottom line, music is free (or soon will be). So use it to market yourself and figure out ways to make money as an artists with the new paradigm.

Or just say that I'm full of shit and keep fighting the tide. Up to you.

Dominik · Post by **Dominik** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:15 pm

the music industry, or the legal authorities, are the ones who suffer.

"the" music industrie doesn't exist anymore,i think.
it is much more a event industrie nowadays,so you take what you need. doesn't matter if it is music or a clown.
so i can't speak separated about music industrie and that's a kind of shit in conversation.

So use it to market yourself and figure out ways to make money as an artists with the new paradigm.

that's the thankless and hard part.
you have to think about so many things in the beginning.
you need a bunch of time to realize it.

nebulae · Post by **nebulae** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:16 pm

^ agreed with both assertions

djastroboy · Post by **djastroboy** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:18 pm

Spacerboy wrote:but the quality of those mp3s on myspace sucks.

I think that the bitrate/quality is up to you and myspace just limits the size, so what you oughtta be doing is posting short high qual snippets.

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:20 pm

Yep, the death of scarcity.

there's no point in pretending to live in a world where only a few people can produce music and that there are only a few places to hear it and then buy it. That is not the world we live in, that is the world that ended about 10 years ago.

All of that is gone, we no longer have to try to get music for free, we have to try harder to buy it ! It is easier to obtain free music than buy music.
As soon as it is broadcast or promoted it is effectively now free for everyone who wants it.

Recordings of music are now merely equivalent to club promo flyers
There is no real way lock it all up again back to the point where only DJs get free records and everyone else pays. The whole thing is blown right open ...
The economics of scarcity in this market are now a thing of the past.

11. The Death of Scarcity: Understand that the economics of the internet is fundamentally different to the economics of the world of shelves and limited stock. Know that you could give away 2 million copies of your record in order to sell a thousand.

http://newmusicstrategies.com/2007/04/1 ... -scarcity/

lola · Post by **lola** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:21 pm

Got this reply from another forum with the same topic

i dont mind using warezed software, wachin
pirated movies on line, downloading album
pre releses, rippin audio from youtube videos
or samplin dvds, usin copywrited images on
my website, wacchin stolen porn online or
samplin other peoples songs

but....

if someone dares download one of my songs
without my permision i will engage Righteous
indignation and start talking about suing/kickin
the shit out of them

rajcoont · Post by **rajcoont** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:25 pm

Angstrom wrote:Yep, the death of scarcity.

I've been looking for a soundbite to explain what music used to be and what it is and that nails it

the times they have changed

however please ignore common sense and click below on my beatport link, tiny tim needs his medicine for xmas this year

Heinz Graaf · Post by **Heinz Graaf** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:26 pm

Whats the fuzz all about? If I like a track on Myspace, I just hit play and record it with some mp3 recorder, minidisc or just another computer..? I might run it through some gear to polish it up a little bit

No harm done... more like the old days

Angstrom · Post by **Angstrom** » Fri Dec 07, 2007 5:31 pm

Heinz Graaf wrote:Whats the fuzz all about? If I like a track on Myspace, I just hit play and record it with some mp3 recorder, minidisc or just another computer..? I might run it through some gear to polish it up a little bit No harm done... more like the old days

you will be needing this site then:

www.put-the-missing-bits-back-in-my-sto ... -tunes.com

it gets all those nasty 128kbps mp3s and puts some golden audiophile bits in to make them 320kbps. really works great