EXPress Card Slot vs. PCMCIA slot-which is faster?

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EXPress Card Slot vs. PCMCIA slot-which is faster?

Post by EgAD » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:17 am

has anybody done a comparison?

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Re: EXPress Card Slot vs. PCMCIA slot-which is faster?

Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:24 pm

EgAD wrote:has anybody done a comparison?
The express card is faster by design. However, it's hard to say how useful that is, because it seems like only a few things are express cards per se. There seem to be plenty of wireless cards, and there are "usb/FW express card expansion ports", and even "PCMCIA to express card adapters".

It seems like an express card-based audio/midi interface could kick some butt, but none exist.
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Re: EXPress Card Slot vs. PCMCIA slot-which is faster?

Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 08, 2008 1:27 pm

mikemc wrote:
EgAD wrote:has anybody done a comparison?
The express card is faster by design. However, it's hard to say how useful that is, because it seems like only a few things are express cards per se. There seem to be plenty of wireless cards, and there are "usb/FW express card expansion ports", and even "PCMCIA to express card adapters".

It seems like an express card-based audio/midi interface could kick some butt, but none exist.
ah, wait, hold on: I'm full of shit--

http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hdspe_madiface.php
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Post by Pitch Black » Tue Apr 08, 2008 2:27 pm

RME make an expresscard for the Multiface, too.

http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hds ... sscard.php

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Post by mikemc » Tue Apr 08, 2008 3:52 pm

Pitch Black wrote:RME make an expresscard for the Multiface, too.

http://www.rme-audio.de/en_products_hds ... sscard.php
yes-- there is a package with the RME multiface 2 and one of these for $1200

http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/5 ... PCI_E.html

it looks way sweet.

[edit] I've got kind of a philosophical thing about buying an interface that is conceivably more expensive than the computer that it could be run on.
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Post by noisetonepause » Tue Apr 08, 2008 5:55 pm

A PCMCIA card is essentially an old fashioned PCI card in a different package, I think.

An ExpressCard, as I understand it, can be either a USB 2.0 device or a PCIe device in PCMCIA-style case. The later is obviously faster than regular PCI and thus PCMCIA but USB 2 is, well, USB 2.

I doubt anyone would make an ExpressCard audio interface and use USB2, though, but for things like card readers etc. they might.

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Post by EgAD » Tue Apr 08, 2008 6:11 pm

well i'm thinking about getting a new laptop, but maybe one with a pcmcia slot cause I've got an old echo indigo card that is just an exceptional card, i loved using that thing, I'm aware though that echo are suppose to come out with an express version so i'm just not sure what to do. I've got an m-audio transit for out an abouts right now but I hate the usb cable and really miss the convenience of the indigo.

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Post by DJ VAKIS » Tue Apr 08, 2008 7:26 pm

EgAD wrote:well i'm thinking about getting a new laptop, but maybe one with a pcmcia slot cause I've got an old echo indigo card that is just an exceptional card, i loved using that thing, I'm aware though that echo are suppose to come out with an express version so i'm just not sure what to do. I've got an m-audio transit for out an abouts right now but I hate the usb cable and really miss the convenience of the indigo.
Some one posted long time ago that,Echo Audio will bring out an express card indigo.
I saw foto too,but i don't know if this is truth.
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Post by Timur » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:29 pm

Minimum latency setting for RME PCI, PCMCIA and Firewire cards is 1.5 ms, for PCI-Express and ExpressCard it's 0.7 ms. So obviously RME was able to squeeze more performance out of PCI-Express. The main advantage compared to PCI is that PCI devices all have to share the same bus while PCI Express devices all get their own dedicated line (less traffic-jams).

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Post by husker » Tue Apr 08, 2008 9:57 pm

If you really want something cool to plugin to you ExpressCard slot...

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/xite.html

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Post by Atomikat » Wed Apr 09, 2008 2:18 am

husker wrote:If you really want something cool to plugin to you ExpressCard slot...

http://www.sonic-core.net/en/home/xite.html
But for that price, the RME's are way more "cooler" than this... :wink:

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Post by husker » Wed Apr 09, 2008 5:46 am

you obviously don't understand what the equivalent of 140 Creamware Scope DSP's gives you...not the same thing as RME at all 8O

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