Does Your Favorite Artist Ritchie Hawtin etc..pay 4 samples?

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:34 pm

the majority of the artist if not all of them mentioned on the forum use samples, of course i know the rap artist are held to a sample clearance standard, but what about other kinds of artist, how much are they held to sample clearance?
i'm asking cause i just realized that most of the artist i'm listening to right now are spinning, reinturpretating, and remixing other artist music.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:37 pm

man i hear so much uncleared stuff on beatport its not funny

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:44 pm

a sj, i was getting a sense of that myself but i thought am i crazy or what, there are alot of hiphop artist sampling but they are either making no money on it or making the samples unrecognizable, but the ones that are recognizable, those dudes get their pockets stripped mighty cleanly.

how does ritchie and the like get away with it

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 5:54 pm

starving student wrote:a sj, i was getting a sense of that myself but i thought am i crazy or what, there are alot of hiphop artist sampling but they are either making no money on it or making the samples unrecognizable, but the ones that are recognizable, those dudes get their pockets stripped mighty cleanly.

how does ritchie and the like get away with it

why, what did he sample? he could have had it cleared.. yanever kno these days.

drush · Post by **drush** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:00 pm

are you talking about performance or commercial product?

when he puts out a mix/project/whatever for sale, yes all the tracks & clips are definitely cleared.

briandervish · Post by **briandervish** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:01 pm

If you don't make any money (i.e. 90% of Beatport releases), no one really notices.

sweetjesus · Post by **sweetjesus** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:02 pm

briandervish wrote:If you don't make any money (i.e. 90% of Beatport releases), no one really notices.

if u do then ur fucked

drush · Post by **drush** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:03 pm

...and then there's Takaaki Itoh

ChiDJ · Post by **ChiDJ** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 6:30 pm

briandervish wrote:If you don't make any money (i.e. 90% of Beatport releases), no one really notices.

Exactly.

starving student · Post by **starving student** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 7:45 pm

i thought beat port was a little more high profile than that, i guess it's safer than i thought, when i mention hawtin its just as an example but i was talking about commercial releases as well as remixes, what drush said gives a little more perspective

Daim · Post by **Daim** » Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:02 pm

SimonPHC · Post by **SimonPHC** » Thu Jun 05, 2008 2:48 am

when they're playing out in a club, the club has to pay money to the royalty collector to which the artists of the tracks performed are members so they get their money. this amount is based on the scale of the venue or the amount of people that could fit in the venue. most of the times, one royalty collecting organization collects and distributes the earnings to the other organizations, who then pay their artists.
it's a bit like radio airplay royalties.

at least, that how it goes in Belgium. it's called SABAM here and they are in legal trouble now for their aggressive collecting behavior. harassing people to pay for gigs that had no music from any of their member musicians.