Hosting a workshop in Ableton Live, help needed!

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yanquiuxo
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Hosting a workshop in Ableton Live, help needed!

Post by yanquiuxo » Wed Sep 10, 2008 2:07 pm

Hello!

At the end of October me and my friend will host a two week long workshop in Ableton Live and digital audio at Malmö University in Sweden. The goal is to let students explore ways to enhance computer based artists production and performance. We are expecting aprox. 20 students.

After two weeks we hope to have achived the following:

1. A big online CC-library containg lots of instruments and presets for Ableton Live that we will share with the Ableton community.

2. A lap top big band orchestra where we will sync a lot of computers via wlan and then perform together as one unit. The idead is to have maybe 10 computers and 20 participants so you have to switch all the time - thus making it a collective performance. Hopefully we can make the music last for maybe 3-4 hours:)

3. A video documentary covering the process before, during and after the workshop.

Activities
We are currently gathering excercises for out students, hopefuly we will present them with about 20 challenges and they can freely choose from these. Right now we are discussing:
*make your own loop pedal
*wii remote!
*album-a-day
*sync video/light(/music
*make new instruments by sampling really strange stuff
*piezo mics
*make your own challenge


It would be great if you boys and girls could help us fill up the list with interesting challenges for students with different levels of experience with ableton live. Almost anything is welcome:)

/Rikard
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Post by Lo-Fi Massahkah » Wed Sep 10, 2008 3:34 pm

Underbar idé!

Great. Let me know if I can contribute in any way. I'll be in the building across the street. :wink:

/Mikael

yanquiuxo
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Post by yanquiuxo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 6:57 am

Great! I will mail you right away!
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Post by chapelier fou » Thu Sep 18, 2008 8:02 am

Generative music
Live as an effect processor
Livelooping
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yanquiuxo
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Post by yanquiuxo » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:33 am

chapelier fou wrote:Generative music
Live as an effect processor
Livelooping
Got any links or videos about it? esp. generative music..
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Post by chapelier fou » Thu Sep 18, 2008 10:35 am

do a search in the forum, there is a great topic about this.
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Moosh
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Post by Moosh » Thu Sep 18, 2008 3:39 pm

i have a tip you can include:
what i wanted to do was to make a DJ Setup that has 3 audio tracks and enable 3 buttons on my controller to enable me to pick which one of the 3 audio tracks would be the dominant bass track (and have the other two have their lows killed via the EQ3 kill switch). The challenge was essentially being able to map the kill switches on each eq3 to 3 separate buttons on my controller... hope this makes sense...

i figured out the trick --

set up IAC (use the Audio Midi Setup app in Mac, do a spotlight search on it, activate the device by double clicking on the driver and selecting that check box)

set up 3 buttons CCs on the remote zero sl (my controller), each as a kill switch for the low frequency on each of the three audio tracks respectively:

audio track 1 EQ3 Low Kill Switch assigned to controller #117
audio track 1 EQ3 Low Kill Switch assigned to controller #118
audio track 1 EQ3 Low Kill Switch assigned to controller #119

create a midi channel with the master output to the IAC driver.

create a midi clip where in the envelope view i draw in automation. i set up 4 midi clips as follows

Clip 1: CC 117 at maximum, CC118 at a minimum (below 64, but not zero because that won't do anything), CC119 at a minimum -- this turns the low on audio channel 1, and kills it on 2 and 3

Clip 2: 117 minimum, 118 maximum, 119 minimum (turns low on 2, kills it for 1 and 3)

Clip 3: 117 minimum, 118 minimum, 119 maximum (turns it on for 3, kills for 1 and 2)

Clip 4: 117, 118, 119 all on maximum - turns low back on for all 3


set in midi preferences
IAC input Track Off Remote On
IAC Output Track On Remote Off

Assign 4 other buttons on the controller to each of the 4 clips above. make sure each clip isn't looping.

So in one motion i can flip on whatever low frequencies per channel i want, or turn them all back on.

why did i do this? i wanted an in-between way that was not as manual, but not completely smart mixing. so when i DJ i have control over the EQs individually or in groupings.

this is just one application and example for using IAC. i imagine that many applications for this same technique.

as you can tell, i am REALLY excited about having figured this out!!

and thanks to all the people on this board that were helpful in leading me down this path.
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Post by friend_kami » Fri Sep 19, 2008 12:35 pm

mm. jag bor i göteborg, fast om jag kan hjälpa till så gör jag det.

zakeytech
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Post by zakeytech » Mon Sep 22, 2008 12:31 pm

it’s just my cup of tea

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