new macbooks dont have firewire? alienating musicians.. wtf.

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Post by adventurepants_ » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:07 pm

onslaught wrote:Well it's not a space issue cause there's a spot right there for a Firewire port. F-off the lock slot and put in FIrewire!
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its more than a physical slot. you need space for the controller, it has to have power routed to it on the motherboard, blah blah blah.
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Post by rikhyray » Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:23 pm

stonee wrote: final cut pro is an industry standard, and mac only. so now, mobile editing will be out for me, without buying a pc.
No, it is not.,never been. It is just stilly Apple marketing and propaganda. FCP is really nice and developed over the years but the real industry standard was and is Avid.
I find the idea of working with video on macbook - which never had proper graphics ridiculous. MBP is called pro for reason it is meant, build for such purpose. I am no Mac fanboy, honestly do not think they alienate themselves from AV professionals, I dont know any pro not using MBP for pro use. Macbook is for girlfriends or mom.
Save some cash and get MBP or get pc and you might discover that Sony Vegas is faster, smarter then hyped FCP. Frankly only software making it worth to boot XP on Mac..

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Post by onslaught » Fri Oct 17, 2008 2:05 am

adventurepants_ wrote: its more than a physical slot. you need space for the controller, it has to have power routed to it on the motherboard, blah blah blah.
Agreed. I'm sure the Apple engineers are clever enough to fit it in that small area.
Either way, if there is space or not, it should be re-designed to accommodate a Firewire bus/port.

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Post by mkelly » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:12 am

rikhyray wrote:I find the idea of working with video on macbook - which never had proper graphics ridiculous.
Did they not just stick seriously improved video capabilities into the new MacBooks which make working with video a lot easier? ;-)

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Post by noisetonepause » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:29 am

mkelly wrote:
rikhyray wrote:I find the idea of working with video on macbook - which never had proper graphics ridiculous.
Did they not just stick seriously improved video capabilities into the new MacBooks which make working with video a lot easier? ;-)
And wasn't the problem with the video performance of the old Macs mostly related to 3D?

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Post by mr.adl » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:34 am

Not sure how serious this is, but you better sign up:
http://www.petitiononline.com/MB1394/petition.html

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Post by chrisedmo » Fri Oct 17, 2008 11:54 am

Great!! Done it and posting the link!!


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Post by ava » Fri Oct 17, 2008 4:37 pm

do macbook's come with pcmcia(cardbus) sockets? if so can't you just get a firewire card?

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Post by Tarekith » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:01 pm

No, they don't.
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Post by ava » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:54 pm

how about using a usb2 to firewire adaptor?

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Post by beats me » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:59 pm

I hope Ableton announces beta testing Live 8 soon. We need something else to beat into the dirt.

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Post by ground_control » Fri Oct 17, 2008 5:59 pm

rikhyray wrote:
stonee wrote: final cut pro is an industry standard, and mac only. so now, mobile editing will be out for me, without buying a pc.
No, it is not.,never been. It is just stilly Apple marketing and propaganda. FCP is really nice and developed over the years but the real industry standard was and is Avid.
You might be surprised these days how much work comes through my facility that was done on FCP. Amateurs are a huge part of the "industry" now, whether they are now fully professional or still really amateurs, and they use what they know. And that is Final Cut.

Certainly Avid is an industry standard, and has been for much longer, but it's far from the only one anymore.

J

ps I'm not saying this is a good thing; FCP can be a royal pain in the ass to integrate into a professional postproduction workflow. ;)

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Post by hacktheplanet » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:09 pm

ava wrote:how about using a usb2 to firewire adaptor?
Even imagining the latency and driver issues gives me a headache.
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Post by scientist » Fri Oct 17, 2008 6:25 pm

Rave wrote:
beats me wrote:I hope Ableton announces beta testing Live 8 soon. We need something else to beat into the dirt.

:lol: +1
+2. laffs all around.

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