Tape delay, anyone..?

myztmuzic · Post by **myztmuzic** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 11:17 am

I certainly wish a nice tapedelay in the supported Live-effects! It would give many mixes a lot more warmth and a nice analog-like sound on the much needed & used delays. Look at Steinberg's Tape Delay (er..- not a brilliant example, but..) - it's not THAT hard, i guess..?

Am i the only one having this on the list..?

Regs,
Jo

mcconaghy · Post by **mcconaghy** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 2:30 pm

That would be nice, tape delay would add a nice character to analog synth sounds. I think it would suit Live.

Parametex · Post by **Parametex** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 3:21 pm

Get a real analog delay, mediocre imitations are simply waste of developing time. Plenty of those available as 3rd party plugins.

Peace,

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Sun Nov 14, 2004 8:31 pm

MDSPs Analogue delay might be what you're after. The flanger's very worth getting too while you're there.

http://mdsp.smartelectronix.com/blog/st ... 512-113434

Machinate · Post by **Machinate** » Mon Nov 15, 2004 11:49 pm

the bionic delay by interruptor is amazing, it's basically a clone of the tapedelay found in Logic. I think it's on par with or even better than the ohmboyz delay, lightyears ahead of the mdsp one.

And it's FREE.

http://www.interruptor.ch/vst_overview.shtml

(loads of other good stuff there)

Martyn · Post by **Martyn** » Tue Nov 16, 2004 9:33 am

Machinate wrote:the bionic delay by interruptor is amazing, it's basically a clone of the tapedelay found in Logic. I think it's on par with or even better than the ohmboyz delay, lightyears ahead of the mdsp one.

And it's FREE.

http://www.interruptor.ch/vst_overview.shtml

(loads of other good stuff there)

Good call man! Didn't know about those

I do now

cheers

M

php · Post by **php** » Thu Nov 18, 2004 8:46 pm

There's Augustus Loop by Expert Sleepers. It simulates a tape delay, but with a 3600 second (1 hour) maximum delay time!

AdamJay · Post by **AdamJay** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 4:11 am

i like the character of the Analogic Delay Freebie (kvr-vst.com)
so much so that i've been using it to make new sounds thanks to resampling in Live. if i need something wierd for background noises, put any kind of source through Analogic Delay, crank the feedback, tweak the groove a little... let it "marinate" for about 5 minutes.... step outside for some fresh air.
come back in and resample the wierdness that 5 minutes of feedback delay has morphed into.

myztmuzic · Post by **myztmuzic** » Fri Nov 19, 2004 12:22 pm

Hi, all! i have used Interruptor's plugs for a while, and i agree, the Bionic-& the tape delay are both brilliant! And thanx for the KVR-link-i check it out now. Strange, i run UAD-1 dsp cards, but none offer tape delay (both TC Poco & UAD-1-dev's) - 'cause they say (always) it's very complicated make a good tapedelay that copes with dsp-cards/fw-units. Guess it's the extra delay due to the dsp-processing, causing troubles..

But thanx again - i load some KVR's now

BUT it WOULD be nice to have a integrated tapedelay in the common Live-effects, tho..

Regs,
Jo

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:29 am

myztmuzic wrote:Hi, all! i have used Interruptor's plugs for a while, and i agree, the Bionic-& the tape delay are both brilliant! And thanx for the KVR-link-i check it out now. Strange, i run UAD-1 dsp cards, but none offer tape delay (both TC Poco & UAD-1-dev's) - 'cause they say (always) it's very complicated make a good tapedelay that copes with dsp-cards/fw-units. Guess it's the extra delay due to the dsp-processing, causing troubles..

But thanx again - i load some KVR's now

BUT it WOULD be nice to have a integrated tapedelay in the common Live-effects, tho..

Regs,
Jo

even if the echo/delays on the UAD1 aren't real "tape echos" they can be really usefull...it just takes a little time getting used to them i have found out...check out the echo unit from nigel, imho very usefull and nice behaviour..

Olaf

myztmuzic · Post by **myztmuzic** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:43 am

olafmol wrote: even if the echo/delays on the UAD1 aren't real "tape echos" they can be really usefull...it just takes a little time getting used to them i have found out...check out the echo unit from Nigel, imho very usefull and nice behaviour..

Olaf

Yes, i agree, Nigel's nice, but a CPU-hungry monster, tho.. Can only load one each UAD-1 card, specially when i use the Pultec Pro & the 1176 as masters, and dreamverb as send-effect. - And some Pultecs om tracks. Then Nigel is very demanding, if you have to use more powered plugs. But the delay on Nigel's nice - that's true

Thanx for the feedback - i will try it out now, and render it, so i can load it into another song without having to run Nigel simultaneously - it's just a workaround..

Thanx,
Jo

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Mon Nov 22, 2004 9:45 am

myztmuzic wrote:
olafmol wrote: even if the echo/delays on the UAD1 aren't real "tape echos" they can be really usefull...it just takes a little time getting used to them i have found out...check out the echo unit from Nigel, imho very usefull and nice behaviour..

Olaf
Yes, i agree, Nigel's nice, but a CPU-hungry monster, tho.. Can only load one each UAD-1 card, specially when i use the Pultec Pro & the 1176 as masters, and dreamverb as send-effect. - And some Pultecs om tracks. Then Nigel is very demanding, if you have to use more powered plugs. But the delay on Nigel's nice - that's true

Thanx for the feedback - i will try it out now, and render it, so i can load it into another song without having to run Nigel simultaneously - it's just a workaround..

Thanx,
Jo

you're aware you can simply load the seperate modules of nigel?? so you don't use all the DSP..

Olaf

myztmuzic · Post by **myztmuzic** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:08 am

-No, i didn't know that, so thanx a lot!! Try it out in a couple of minutes

Thanx,
Jo

olafmol · Post by **olafmol** » Tue Nov 23, 2004 10:45 am

myztmuzic wrote: -No, i didn't know that, so thanx a lot!! Try it out in a couple of minutes

Thanx,
Jo

you're in for a surprise, as not only the seperate nigel modules, but also the modules of the Channel Strip CS1 are available as seperate plugins, to spare DSP... i believe the nigel echo module is simply called "Trem/Mod/Echo" .... the delay and reflection modules of the channel strip are called "DM-1" and "RS-1" ..

enjoy!

Olaf

myztmuzic · Post by **myztmuzic** » Thu Nov 25, 2004 10:08 am

olafmol wrote:you're in for a surprise, as not only the seperate nigel modules, but also the modules of the Channel Strip CS1 are available as seperate plugins, to spare DSP... i believe the nigel echo module is simply called "Trem/Mod/Echo" .... the delay and reflection modules of the channel strip are called "DM-1" and "RS-1" ..

enjoy!

Olaf

Well, yes, i know about those, and i've used them pretty much. I thought u meant there were a separate delay on Nigel that ain't on the pluginlist from UAD-1. But then i got the picture, and i have to say, i'm not Very impressed with the delays at all from UA..! But they works as they should, but it's a long way from those to a tapedelay, tho..

But thanx for your time & effort

Regs,
Jo

Tape delay, anyone..?

Tape delay, anyone..?

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