How to get good at arangement (techno/minimal/house)
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How to get good at arangement (techno/minimal/house)
My biggest problem in the past has been finishing tunes, turning them from loops into tracks, so I've been really knuckling down the last two weeks and forcing myself to work on two ideas until they're finished and no more.
Problem is I'm finding it really hard, I can play around with the loops and ideas and feel the groove, but turning it into a track it keeps loosing the groove and feel and starting to sound dull and straight.
Does anyone have any tips on how to work out good techno/minimal/techhouse arangements, or pointers on common mistakes etc?
it'd be much appreciated.
Problem is I'm finding it really hard, I can play around with the loops and ideas and feel the groove, but turning it into a track it keeps loosing the groove and feel and starting to sound dull and straight.
Does anyone have any tips on how to work out good techno/minimal/techhouse arangements, or pointers on common mistakes etc?
it'd be much appreciated.
Arrangement.
This is what separates the men from the boys.
I've said this before and I stand by it. (It's how I learned).
Load a song that you want your music to sound like and arrange your loop exactly the same way. COPY every change, drop out, transition. From mix in to mix out.
This is the best way to learn. After a few of these exercises, you will begin to intuitively understand how these songs are arranged.
It also helps to learn to DJ. To feel the groove of a good song and how the floor reacts to the songs changes.
T-
This is what separates the men from the boys.
I've said this before and I stand by it. (It's how I learned).
Load a song that you want your music to sound like and arrange your loop exactly the same way. COPY every change, drop out, transition. From mix in to mix out.
This is the best way to learn. After a few of these exercises, you will begin to intuitively understand how these songs are arranged.
It also helps to learn to DJ. To feel the groove of a good song and how the floor reacts to the songs changes.
T-
"Let you're body feel the sound! Let it cover you up and down!"
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that is a awsome tipChiDJ wrote:Arrangement.
This is what separates the men from the boys.
I've said this before and I stand by it. (It's how I learned).
Load a song that you want your music to sound like and arrange your loop exactly the same way. COPY every change, drop out, transition. From mix in to mix out.
This is the best way to learn. After a few of these exercises, you will begin to intuitively understand how these songs are arranged.
It also helps to learn to DJ. To feel the groove of a good song and how the floor reacts to the songs changes.
T-
will be trying this
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http://twitter.com/fproject1
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Thanks thats a good tip putting a song under it to get cues for arranagement.
I DJed a long long time before I started producing, but somehow I find it really hard to capture the 'performance energy' or whatever, when i'm doing arranagements.
Today for instance, I must have spent 15 mins with a basic loop on my new electribe ER1 dropping in and out parts, effecting, modding decays etc and loving it and the thing only has 9 sounds. Then I sat down with a really good solid 32 beat techno loop in live and it was murder to make a 4 minute aranagement with it.
I DJed a long long time before I started producing, but somehow I find it really hard to capture the 'performance energy' or whatever, when i'm doing arranagements.
Today for instance, I must have spent 15 mins with a basic loop on my new electribe ER1 dropping in and out parts, effecting, modding decays etc and loving it and the thing only has 9 sounds. Then I sat down with a really good solid 32 beat techno loop in live and it was murder to make a 4 minute aranagement with it.
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http://www.tarekith.com/assets/arranging.html
Guide mentioned above to save anyone who might want a peak some time
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+1. Great tip!djfm wrote:that is a awsome tipChiDJ wrote:Arrangement.
This is what separates the men from the boys.
I've said this before and I stand by it. (It's how I learned).
Load a song that you want your music to sound like and arrange your loop exactly the same way. COPY every change, drop out, transition. From mix in to mix out.
This is the best way to learn. After a few of these exercises, you will begin to intuitively understand how these songs are arranged.
It also helps to learn to DJ. To feel the groove of a good song and how the floor reacts to the songs changes.
T-
will be trying this