Barack Obama Honeymoon period: How long before you start?

[Machinesworking]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw - interesting viewing for the more open minded.

What a giant hunk of shit that video is.

Obama in office 64 days and he's got his own 911 style conspiracy doc

Open minded? You have to be anti every presidents ever.
It takes all that is wrong with our government and blames Obama for it.

Pure crap for the ever so gullible conspiracy nutters.

OK then, which two famous rappers are in it? If you watched the video you would know.
Not a fan of Alex Jones, he's a goof ball, but some of the interviewees are pretty cool.

Scariest reality in it is Obama and co. talking about military conscription.
It's something GWB could never sell, but we'll see if they try to sell it with Obama, hopefully it's just talk.
How's that for a nice liberal presidential agenda?

[knotkranky]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eAaQNACwaLw - interesting viewing for the more open minded.

What a giant hunk of shit that video is.

Obama in office 64 days and he's got his own 911 style conspiracy doc

Open minded? You have to be anti every presidents ever.
It takes all that is wrong with our government and blames Obama for it.

Pure crap for the ever so gullible conspiracy nutters.

OK then, which two famous rappers are in it? If you watched the video you would know.
Not a fan of Alex Jones, he's a goof ball, but some of the interviewees are pretty cool.

Scariest reality in it is Obama and co. talking about military conscription.
It's something GWB could never sell, but we'll see if they try to sell it with Obama, hopefully it's just talk.
How's that for a nice liberal presidential agenda?

Geez Mdub, Ok, got past krs and then they sand-bag ya with some crack style bs. Didn't know it was alex jones but i should've known, duh. Naw couldn't watch it all.

Military conscription? yeah well, he's gotta say that we're crazy enough to do it. The U.S. has it's shorts down a bit with a very busy military. Post bush? what can ya do?

Liberal agenda? Domestically, good. Worldwide? too many enemies ready to test us. Obama is being rightfully shrewd on that. I'm ready to sign up!!! You talkin to me iran!!!

[Incy]

to the right wing troll:

1) Philosophy is not science.

2) NPR gets 70% of it's information from government sources, that includes the pentagon. The rest of the time they are talking about car repairs, how fleas on rats caused the reformation, or what colors bees like best. If they are indeed a propagandist outlet of the left, they suck ass at it.

3) I was also going to say something that mass media is not simply biased to the left as though it had an agenda to beat down the right, but a variety of large corporations reflective of the values of each respective consumer demographic... but just forget it... this tread is a waste.

[pulsoc]

I just love how the right-wingers insist on calling him Barry! heehee!

[the_antagonist]

synaesthesia - nice word, I never knew.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Synaesthesia

one type of synaesthesia is...

grapheme ? color synesthesia or color-graphemic synesthesia, letters or numbers are perceived as inherently colored

I went to school with someone who was like that. she attributed it to the colored alphabet magnets on the fridge when she grew up. you could ask her the color of a word and she'd tell you, even if you asked the same question months apart. it was savant-like and she appreciated people not asking her colors, it was an involuntary response, annoying. smart chick, very quiet, good student, spent her free time learning Slayer solos.

my own personal experiences in such states didn't last for more than 4-6 hours.

i have that. i use it for harmonic mixing.

it doesnt help me to produce as single noises do not have colour however a complete track does

[Machinesworking]

What a giant hunk of shit that video is.

Obama in office 64 days and he's got his own 911 style conspiracy doc

Open minded? You have to be anti every presidents ever.
It takes all that is wrong with our government and blames Obama for it.

Pure crap for the ever so gullible conspiracy nutters.

OK then, which two famous rappers are in it? If you watched the video you would know.
Not a fan of Alex Jones, he's a goof ball, but some of the interviewees are pretty cool.

Scariest reality in it is Obama and co. talking about military conscription.
It's something GWB could never sell, but we'll see if they try to sell it with Obama, hopefully it's just talk.
How's that for a nice liberal presidential agenda?

Geez Mdub, Ok, got past krs and then they sand-bag ya with some crack style bs. Didn't know it was alex jones but i should've known, duh. Naw couldn't watch it all.

Military conscription? yeah well, he's gotta say that we're crazy enough to do it. The U.S. has it's shorts down a bit with a very busy military. Post bush? what can ya do?

Liberal agenda? Domestically, good. Worldwide? too many enemies ready to test us. Obama is being rightfully shrewd on that. I'm ready to sign up!!! You talkin to me iran!!!

You can't be serious? if you are, then I've lost all respect for your politics.

If a troll post, 10/10! good job!

[OvertoneZero]

The honeymoon is SO over!!

[LoopStationZebra]

Not over.

NPR just had a report on what flavor jell-O Obama likes most.

Meanwhile, Obama decides to leave a ton of troops in Iraq and *ahem* call them a different name in the hope that nobody notices....

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/03/2 ... 79085.html

"Obama's decision to go along with the military proposal for a "transition force" of 35,000 to 50,000 troops thus represents a complete abandonment of his own original policy of combat troop withdrawal and an acceptance of what the military wanted all along - the continued presence of several combat brigades in Iraq well beyond mid-2010."

Welcome to Bush Foreign Policy 2.0

A liberal domestic policy (good), but the same old shit with foreign policy (not so good).

Meanwhile, only the Huffington Post seems to notice.

I love how one issue - the economy - so completely replaces another - war. Just like that. So easy. Where are all the endless posters in this forum and others who were spewing spittle on their keyboards as they typed angry message after angry message; condemning Bush & Co?? Where's the outrage now? We are still in Iraq, and not likely to get out anytime soon. We are RAMPING UP in Afghanistan, FFS. We are still launching attacks into Pakistan. God knows what else. Hell, we're about to send troops to the Mexican border FFS. Here's what I get from all this:

When Bush makes War it's bad.
When Obama makes War it's not so bad? It's part of Change? It's Justified? It's Cool? It's...? I don't get it.

The press, and everyone else, seems to have moved on. I get that. Not really. Losing one's job is tough. Losing one's entire family to an errant bomb is probably tougher.



The Honeymoon is not over. It's over when somebody starts to remind Obama of his obligations and promises to end the fucking war in Iraq. Now. All out. Now. No excuses.

I'm reminded of Ron Paul's statement when he was asked how we could possibility pull out of Iraq within 30 days time - given the delicate nature of the situation there. His reply? "It's easy. You get a bunch of planes. Land them. Load up the troops. Then leave."

Done.

Sorry for the rant, people. It just drives me crazy that the economy and whether or not Obama giggles too much are the two top issues right now.

[WaveRider]

Wrongfully? I believe that trying to fight terrorists on their own turf instead of the streets of Cincinnati, Atlanta, or Phoenix is probably a good idea. And I think that the world community should do everything possible to make life hard for those countries who knowingly harbor terrorists.

sorry, you have been brainwashed

[acatcalledanarchy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEJyrrgU ... re=related - more fuel for the fire

[ethios4]

Wait until the Fed's $1.25 trillion dollars hits the economy, and countries start calling for an end to the dollar as the world's reserve currency. Fun times are coming.

[knotkranky]

OK then, which two famous rappers are in it? If you watched the video you would know.
Not a fan of Alex Jones, he's a goof ball, but some of the interviewees are pretty cool.

Scariest reality in it is Obama and co. talking about military conscription.
It's something GWB could never sell, but we'll see if they try to sell it with Obama, hopefully it's just talk.
How's that for a nice liberal presidential agenda?

Geez Mdub, Ok, got past krs and then they sand-bag ya with some crack style bs. Didn't know it was alex jones but i should've known, duh. Naw couldn't watch it all.

Military conscription? yeah well, he's gotta say that we're crazy enough to do it. The U.S. has it's shorts down a bit with a very busy military. Post bush? what can ya do?

Liberal agenda? Domestically, good. Worldwide? too many enemies ready to test us. Obama is being rightfully shrewd on that. I'm ready to sign up!!! You talkin to me iran!!!

You can't be serious? if you are, then I've lost all respect for your politics.

If a troll post, 10/10! good job!

LOL, sorry no, not a troll post. What's not to be serious about? All countries rattle shit at each other including the US. Our military is strained to it capabilities, this has emboldened some not so friendly elements, so Obama rightly flexed some muscle saying the US will do what it has to and is always ready. I dunno dude, makes perfect sense. I'm ready to be corrected though.

[Machinesworking]

LOL, sorry no, not a troll post. What's not to be serious about? All countries rattle shit at each other including the US. Our military is strained to it capabilities, this has emboldened some not so friendly elements, so Obama rightly flexed some muscle saying the US will do what it has to and is always ready. I dunno dude, makes perfect sense. I'm ready to be corrected though.

look, if a republican said that, and it was McCain in office right now, you would be all over it as another example of blah blah blah. Military conscription is seriously fucked up on every level. Really, if you cannot see that, then basically you're just another wolf in sheeps clothing, and in that way less honest than the far right IMO.

Seriously aren't you approaching 50? Do you remember the VietNam war? Another case where we were fighting an 'enemy' that wanted to destroy our way of life. At least the Vietcong were a regular army, and we weren't just harassing neighborhoods in zones considered enemy territory trying to flush out terrorists etc. (not to say we didn't)..

I will say this though, I despise your politics much more than I do the right, at least they aren't trying to hide behind diplomacy, and realize that you rattling your saber at Iran here is exactly why Iran ended up with an extremist in power in the first place. The United States fucked that country up royally and it's beyond hypocritical of us to try to hide behind the "world police" BS, we would have pretty much all the sweet crude oil if we had forces in Iraq and Iran, coupled with our Saudi ties, and a nice pipeline in Afghanistan etc. It's the same BS. Countries rattling their cages at the US is such total garbage it's not even funny. Look at casualty numbers in any recent war and realize that at this point trying to mount anything real against us is impossible. Think about how ridiculous all this must seem to other countries. How hypocritical and self serving.
Also realize this, terror attacks, are possible, it's the problem with fighting an enemy that has no real army, they only bomb shit here and there, it's all they can do, and no taking away of privacy or building up of the military etc. will stop that. What does is a respect for sovereignty, and clear ethics on our part. Rattling Iran's cage is not what I would call smart.

Really, put the Kool Aid down, and run!

[Tone Deft]

All countries rattle shit at each other including the US. Our military is strained to it capabilities, this has emboldened some not so friendly elements, so Obama rightly flexed some muscle saying the US will do what it has to and is always ready. I dunno dude, makes perfect sense. I'm ready to be corrected though.

you mean like this?
http://www.cnn.com/2009/WORLD/asiapcf/0 ... .us.ships/

As North Korea prepares for an expected rocket launch next month, the U.S. Navy says it is moving to the Sea of Japan ships capable of shooting down ballistic missiles.
The USS Chaffee is one of two destroyers headed to South Korea for an upcoming ceremony, the Navy said.

The USS Chaffee is one of two destroyers headed to South Korea for an upcoming ceremony, the Navy said.

The ships, with powerful Aegis radar that can track ballistic missile launches, are on regularly planned deployments but are "prepared to track a launch or more, if afforded," according to a U.S. Navy official who could not be named because of the sensitivity of the information.

The United States generally has a number of Aegis-capable ships in the Sea of Japan because of the threat by North Korea to launch missiles. The ships monitor the region and are designed to track and if need be shoot down ballistic missiles.

North Korea says it will launch a commercial satellite on top of a rocket sometime between April 4 and April 8. But Western governments fear the North Koreans will put a long-range missile on top of the rocket.

If North Korea launches, the Obama administration may have has little as five minutes to decide whether it is a threat and, if necessary, try to shoot it down.

people have made careers out of writing books about WHY they do it.

[knotkranky]

LOL, sorry no, not a troll post. What's not to be serious about? All countries rattle shit at each other including the US. Our military is strained to it capabilities, this has emboldened some not so friendly elements, so Obama rightly flexed some muscle saying the US will do what it has to and is always ready. I dunno dude, makes perfect sense. I'm ready to be corrected though.

look, if a republican said that, and it was McCain in office right now, you would be all over it as another example of blah blah blah. Military conscription is seriously fucked up on every level. Really, if you cannot see that, then basically you're just another wolf in sheeps clothing, and in that way less honest than the far right IMO.

Seriously aren't you approaching 50? Do you remember the VietNam war? Another case where we were fighting an 'enemy' that wanted to destroy our way of life. At least the Vietcong were a regular army, and we weren't just harassing neighborhoods in zones considered enemy territory trying to flush out terrorists etc. (not to say we didn't)..

I will say this though, I despise your politics much more than I do the right, at least they aren't trying to hide behind diplomacy, and realize that you rattling your saber at Iran here is exactly why Iran ended up with an extremist in power in the first place. The United States fucked that country up royally and it's beyond hypocritical of us to try to hide behind the "world police" BS, we would have pretty much all the sweet crude oil if we had forces in Iraq and Iran, coupled with our Saudi ties, and a nice pipeline in Afghanistan etc. It's the same BS. Countries rattling their cages at the US is such total garbage it's not even funny. Look at casualty numbers in any recent war and realize that at this point trying to mount anything real against us is impossible. Think about how ridiculous all this must seem to other countries. How hypocritical and self serving.
Also realize this, terror attacks, are possible, it's the problem with fighting an enemy that has no real army, they only bomb shit here and there, it's all they can do, and no taking away of privacy or building up of the military etc. will stop that. What does is a respect for sovereignty, and clear ethics on our part. Rattling Iran's cage is not what I would call smart.

Really, put the Kool Aid down, and run!

Hmm, naw, that ain't it. I just think you don't like me very much

Obama is considering conscription to let a-hole countries know he'll do it if he has to. if you don;t see the value in that sorry, I can't put it to you any plainer than that. Tones post is certainly pertinent to my point. I think you maybe huffing the kool-aid though i for one like your politics and i'm mostly in agreement with you.