using a vst arpeggiator

[mexique1]

hi

i'd like to use a VST arpeggiator in Live, like ARPocalypse, but i can't find how to by myself !

i've tried this : i put ARPocalypse in the midi track 1 for example, in this track i switch the monitoring on, so it receives the midi notes sent by my midi keyboard... ok
so i create another midi track (number 2), and i send the midi output of the first track to the second... then i put any VST synth in the midi track 2 and i highlight the monitoring on too

then, when i play a chord on my midi keyboard, it should make a sequence on the second midi track but... nothing happens !
i've tried several routings, but nothing seems to work...

help please

[iskandar]

i just did the same but using the arp in CS 80 and then absynth on the second track, u wont get the arp notes sent to the second track because live takes the midi data before its processed by ur plugin..

[mexique1]

thanx for answering iskandar, nobody answered me on others forums, i thought i was alone

so there's no solution to our problem in live ?

[nebulae]

http://www.wiz.nildram.co.uk/ARPocalypse/manual.htm

There are two ways to do this. I think you tried the first way. Try the second way, where you insert ARPocalypse as an insert in an audio track. I haven't tried this yet, so I'm wondering if it will work. Let me know.

I have successfully used EnergyXT with Live, when in dire need for an arp.

[iskandar]

yea it will only work via rewire i think, have to try it.. there is a vst audio to midi converter which might be worth looking at as well, if the plugin your using doesnt work..

but yea i tried all types of options and i could never get it to work within live..

[TheUriah]

I'm not at home, but I just thought of trying this. What about setting up Virtual Midi Ports, like with MIDI-Yoke, sending the MIDI "out" to that port, and then takeing it back "in" to another channel? Anyone try this yet?

[mexique1]

nebulae > i read energyXT can be used as a VST plugin... maybe the solution ? and there's an arp in eXT, am i wrong ?
i must check this program...

theuriah > thanx, but i'm a little bit allergic to midiyoke/midiox, i tried but... i abandoned

anyway thanx, i've found a new method : i use the arpegiator of my MC-909 with a midi file in Live => it's just crazy !

we'll see

[nebulae]

You are correct, there is an arp in EnergyXT. Basically, you load EnergyXT as a VSTi within Live. Then you load your VSTi of choice inside EnergyXT. You need to learn EnergyXT a bit to figure out how to use the arp, but it's pretty easy when you go through the various help files out there.

[conny]

I usally load the arpeggiator in Plogue Bidule and let the midi pass through midi yoke between that and Live. Don't have run in rewire mode.
// C

[mexique1]

yeeeeeeaaaaaaah ! (sorry, i'm VERY slow, almost a month )

that's right, energy XT truly expands the possibilities of Live !
i just inserted energy XT + MIDI XT in Live, linked the midi input to an arpeggiator, the midi output of the arpeggiator to tobybear VST2MID (thanx sil/sic industries ) and finally to the midi output , and it works !!!

i haven't really understood how to route the signal to Live, but i jsut had a couple of hours yesterday to test it : amazing !!!
and there are also wonderful things to do with Live+Bidule as rewire slave+EnergyXT as a VST in Bidule

thanx to all ++