ot - G20 London, man attacked by police, dies moments later

[b0unce]

Similar posting already, but the thread title was waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay off.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2009/apr/0 ... ce-assault

As for a little background, the met police seemed to be posturing (via statements published in british papers) in the weeks previous to the summit. It was tantamount to saying 'bring it on'

The initial blanket denial of any police contact with Ian is damning, and I don't think it bodes well for the truthfulness of future statements...



discuss, rant, rave, etc

[noisetonepause]

[ethios4]

That guy was clearly trying to detonate some sort of bomb in his pockets.

Hmmm, when did free speech and peaceful assembly become illegal in supposedly 'free' countries?

[LoopStationZebra]

meh.

I thought he was going to be ripped to pieces by those dogs. THAT would have been news.



*Sorry. It really is tragic.*

[brightonalex]

Bounce, I thought the guy looked like he was taking the piss out of the police, as is his civil right.
And then a MASKED policeman appeared from nowhere, shoved him to the ground, and then disappeared.
The guy sat up and objected, so I don't think the policeman caused his death because he had a heart attack later.
But I think, if the police are allowed to come out with their faces masked, and use weapons on people, then they can hardly have a go at demonstrators that do the same.
It was fucking sinister. That policeman looked like a little thug, and they had dogs all over the place.
I don't know what my point is. The police need to be brought into line.

[pulsoc]

SEE?!?! Alex Whathisface is right!!!!!!!!!!!

[mikemc]

SEE?!?! Alex Whathisface is right!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't know about that, there weren't any ominous low synth lines in this video....

but It is really bad, and really really sad.

what's going to come out of this: it will turn out the poor guy had a few in the bar on his way home, they'll blame that, he'll have had some minor run-ins, so they'll make him out to be a lowlife, and pretty soon some portion of the population will be muttering 'well, he was asking for it'.

[Johnisfaster]

my contribution http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CjMLZuuXDRQ

[dazzer]

Bounce, I thought the guy looked like he was taking the piss out of the police, as is his civil right.
And then a MASKED policeman appeared from nowhere, shoved him to the ground, and then disappeared.
The guy sat up and objected, so I don't think the policeman caused his death because he had a heart attack later.
But I think, if the police are allowed to come out with their faces masked, and use weapons on people, then they can hardly have a go at demonstrators that do the same.
It was fucking sinister. That policeman looked like a little thug, and they had dogs all over the place.
I don't know what my point is. The police need to be brought into line.

New video on Channel 4 (just seen it on the web, I don't live in UK) showed that the cop hit him with a baton first before shoving him over. Guy was wearing a Millwall shirt, guess the cop saw it as "provocation".

I dunno, shock of all this could well cause a heart attack if you've got a dodgy heart?

Good on The Guardian (jihadist rag according to our Canadian friend in Afghanistan) for posting original vid, a report I read said BBC news first rejected it, tho no idea if that's true or not.

[hoffman2k]

Good thing the Medics were there to prevent any other ehrm.. Wtf is he doing?

[Emissary]

Good thing the Medics were there to prevent any other ehrm.. Wtf is he doing?

So much for do no harm. I guess that doesn't apply to medics, nice to know. This country is a joke. The poor paying the rich to live, the intelligent beating down on the stupid, the young getting at the old. All signs that our current social structure is in rapid decline and will continue to do so until some kind of paradigm shift. Its beyond me why anyone would want this society to continue. The only decent thing i can see is free health service and even that is diabolical and probably kills as many as it saves through malpractice, low hygiene and lack of funds.

People are such loving kind creatures at heart, but we are continually manipulated and corralled into a frenzy like feeding fish. I hope no one on these boards is under any illusion that anything is going to get better from now on, Civilisation is in rapid decline , i hope its a fast collapse so we can begin to start building something better. A slow collapse may mean the end of us all in these truly global times. We have to remember that we the people and the knowledge we have accrued ARE civilisation, not the useless infrastructures, isms and ipods that float around us like scum on a pristine lake

[Johnisfaster]

I dunno, shock of all this could well cause a heart attack if you've got a dodgy heart?

is that the official cause of death? I would think a serious concussion could do it too. the video I saw doesn't show whether or not his head hit the ground.

[Amberience]

Good thing the Medics were there to prevent any other ehrm.. Wtf is he doing?

So much for do no harm. I guess that doesn't apply to medics, nice to know. This country is a joke. The poor paying the rich to live, the intelligent beating down on the stupid, the young getting at the old. All signs that our current social structure is in rapid decline and will continue to do so until some kind of paradigm shift. Its beyond me why anyone would want this society to continue. The only decent thing i can see is free health service and even that is diabolical and probably kills as many as it saves through malpractice, low hygiene and lack of funds.

People are such loving kind creatures at heart, but we are continually manipulated and corralled into a frenzy like feeding fish. I hope no one on these boards is under any illusion that anything is going to get better from now on, Civilisation is in rapid decline , i hope its a fast collapse so we can begin to start building something better. A slow collapse may mean the end of us all in these truly global times. We have to remember that we the people and the knowledge we have accrued ARE civilisation, not the useless infrastructures, isms and ipods that float around us like scum on a pristine lake

Are you sure it's not the stupid beating down on the intelligent?

[Warminstrel]

If you say 'boo' to someone and they have a heart fatal attack, surely thats 'manslughter'

if you batter someone with a 3 kilogram truncheon resulting in a them suffering a fatal heart attack - Thats murder.

There have been two videos:

First showing the man being 'pushed' to the ground

A second, (from another angle) showing the push was in fact a truncheon blow.

Eye witnesses in the BBC media also account that he had been assulted by the same group of police officers a few seconds before the videos in a simmilar manner.

The official police report has the cause of death as a heart attack as yet they have not filled a report mentioning any of the video captured assault.

Police brutality has always been rife in the UK and has always blamed anarchists and protestors for instigating it. Diplomicy is not one of ther strong points.

Just ask the striking Miners and Stonehenge Festival goers of the 80's how 'diplomatic' the pigs in the uk are.

Least we forget.

[the_antagonist]

Good thing the Medics were there to prevent any other ehrm.. Wtf is he doing?

So much for do no harm. I guess that doesn't apply to medics, nice to know. This country is a joke. The poor paying the rich to live, the intelligent beating down on the stupid, the young getting at the old. All signs that our current social structure is in rapid decline and will continue to do so until some kind of paradigm shift. Its beyond me why anyone would want this society to continue. The only decent thing i can see is free health service and even that is diabolical and probably kills as many as it saves through malpractice, low hygiene and lack of funds.

People are such loving kind creatures at heart, but we are continually manipulated and corralled into a frenzy like feeding fish. I hope no one on these boards is under any illusion that anything is going to get better from now on, Civilisation is in rapid decline , i hope its a fast collapse so we can begin to start building something better. A slow collapse may mean the end of us all in these truly global times. We have to remember that we the people and the knowledge we have accrued ARE civilisation, not the useless infrastructures, isms and ipods that float around us like scum on a pristine lake

Are you sure it's not the stupid beating down on the intelligent?

it used to be that the mods and teddies would fight n what not. but you never see drum n bass kids chasing deep housers down the street.

So at least music has changed for the better maybe one day governments will too.