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by quandry » Sun Aug 02, 2009 8:52 pm
wow, thanks Tone! Long time no see, hope you're enjoying our SF "summer"--sure beats the heatwaves though! Thanks danzel (I shoot you a private message on the cd).
I'll have to check out the Vampire Weekend album, thanks jesso! IF you haven't heard of them, Monthy Alexander (piano) and Ernest Ranglin (my favorite guitaris) are both incredible musicians from Jamaica that play Reggae/Ska/Calyspos/Carribean-influenced jazz--check Ernest's "Below the Bassline" album, incredible.
bosonHavoc--I started with a Drumkat EZ (really old unit I got on ebay), which is much like the DK10. Over time I really longed for the snare and hi hat, like yourself. It is not a cheap road, I bought everything at a good price on ebay and it still was close to $2k. To use an actual two-piece roland hi hat (vh12, or VH11, which is what I have) to it's fullest capabilities, it must plug into a roland TD-10, TD-12, or TD-20 brain, and they are all pretty pricy. The TD-10 wasn't out when I was getting the pieces together, so I got the TD-12. I also got a pd125 mesh share and kd85 mesh kit. I waas basically in the same boat as you (plus liviing in an apartment bldg!)--buy a good kit, all the mics and pre amps and piles of cables, or get a legit and compact e-drum setup. I plug in the kick, snare, and hats into the TD12, and I use the Drumkat's ten pads for cymbals and toms, where I am fine with just pads and nothing fancy, and it saves a ton of space vs. having all the toms and cymbals. The midi chain is drumkat>TD12>Motu micro lite(midi usb thang)>Ableton>BGD2 as a vst instrument.
Now for the bad news--I really wasn't feeling the sound/processing of the Roland factory kits. You can buy 50-packs of kits from various kit-making companies (you just get a sysex midi file to load onto the head)--I tried these and they were better, but ultimately I wasn't digging the sound in my mixes, and porting over each individual track was a drag. The solution was to just send midi to my computer and use BFD2 vst drum software inside Live for my sounds. I could go on an on about BFD2, it is brilliant and the amount of control just within this vst is incredible--it's like having a range or incredible drums and mics and having a level of control of them that isn't even possible in the real world (like a knob that controls the amount of snare bleed, or how much kick goes into the overhead and room mics!). After starting with banging out beats on a keyboard for years, I feel like I finally have the edrum setup of my dreams. IF you count BFD2 as part of the equation, it is wayyy cheaper to go the e-drum route than the real kit+mics+mic pres--the mics and pres and ten or so drum kits used on BFD2 are all top-of-the-line. Sorry to go on and on, but your post is exactly where I was about 2+ years ago!
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