you really misunderstand me...hoffman2k wrote:Yeah. Cause we all know Live's code is super simpleSubFunk wrote:i don't see enough people giving ableton shit about it... it can't be that hard to implement, can it?Yeah. Don't we all
that would be not even worth an mentioned update, it should be just there, naturally.
Lots of things should appear naturally. Follow actions for sessions slots ranking high on my list of features that should just be there. And hey, I wouldn't mind recording the odd automation in a session clip.
I gave Ableton shit for years with this whole automapping stuff. In the end it was all wasted energy and at the same time they're giving me exactly what I wanted with M4L.
I mean, you can spend all your time getting pissed about the little things that aren't there. Being assured its childsplay to implement. But isn't this request just one of literally hundreds of little things that should just naturally be there?
Anyway. I'm not arguing that this couldn't be implemented within a day. Maybe a month. But you just don't know. For all we know, they're working on an entire overhaul. The serato thing is still coming up, that might be anything from a native serato device to controlling a Live session like a piece of vinyl. With special warping madness. Like it or not, you'll see a lot of your feature requests naturally pop up in the wild in the form of Max patches.
To be honest, I don't even know why or what I'm arguing. I hate mondays. I think that is my point.
You got legitimate beef with Ableton for not having what you want. I'm learning that I'm running out of requests and will soon be able to make Live what I wanted it to be since I discovered Live 3.
Just take a look in the feature request list and beta forums. I've seen 80% of my wishes come true over the last 5 years. And believe me, I had a lot of wishes.
<hippie> Its all going to work out man.</hippie> Got bugs? Haunt Dom. Got wishes? Have patience. Additionally, haunt Amaury with wishes. Works for me.
And dude, you're in Germany. You can literally go bribe them with beers or fancy coffee. You can walk into Ableton with your computer and show your issues and get them properly reported. (don't forget the camera )
If anybody is in a perfect position to give Ableton shit, I'd say you'd rank high up the list.
Real-time bug reports. I'm sure they'll get a kick out of that.
i mean it's not worth a in a 'selling / marketing point' of view... that's why it should be just there... not worth a mention...
also, i said it, because YOU where like:
so i picked up your big words... also, i asked if it id so difficult...!!! i did not said it is. read. (and ableton does in the meantime, just like any other company only care about sells... not about quality that much anymore... natural development, with the size ableton has now, M4L or serato will bring new customers, fixing 'old' issues not (and it also does not really scare old users off to the extend leaving the apps...!!!), i am aware of it, and i don't judge it negatively... i do business myself, but i also say it like it is!!!)Yeah. Don't we all
and lately i talked to amaury and he seemed to be bothered about way more complex stuff (probably because of the reason mentioned) then fixing the 'easy and obvious' (at least what i consider it to be, maybe i am wrong... i mean you say that, so i am wrong) because i am apparently pretty much the only one who wants to have simple stuff working before all the serato, M4L and whatever... comes along.
also: i, but i guess i am wrong again... consider the ability of the easy and extensive Key and midi mapping one of the few really outstanding functions that keep Live far apart and above other music apps around and make it so utterly unique... so i wonder, why that strength and uniqueness not
ALL THE WAY? before adding other stuff!