more music theory (direction)

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:16 pm

damm its just not right.

derzai · Post by **derzai** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:35 pm

the_antagonist wrote:damm its just not right.

Forget the theory, do what your ears dictate.

H20nly · Post by **H20nly** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 8:36 pm

use your pinky.

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:06 pm

i need to use the force.

anybody human · Post by **anybody human** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:13 pm

the_antagonist wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:"the bass is flat" ???

to make tension, go up a fifth, G to D.

to release tension, go down a fifth, G to C.

to introduce emotion go to the 2nd, 3rd or 6th... A, B or E. (in ascending order of strength of 'pull' IIRC.)

go to the 4th for some of the same tension as the 5th but not as much. that would be a C. (C is a 4th up or a 5th down from G depending on where your root note is.)

the pull between the fifth and root is the strongest one in music.

wow

Wow indeed.

derzai · Post by **derzai** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:17 pm

anybody human wrote:
the_antagonist wrote:
Tone Deft wrote:"the bass is flat" ???

to make tension, go up a fifth, G to D.

to release tension, go down a fifth, G to C.

to introduce emotion go to the 2nd, 3rd or 6th... A, B or E. (in ascending order of strength of 'pull' IIRC.)

go to the 4th for some of the same tension as the 5th but not as much. that would be a C. (C is a 4th up or a 5th down from G depending on where your root note is.)

the pull between the fifth and root is the strongest one in music.

wow
Wow indeed.

Johann Fux could have told you that 350 years ago.

H20nly · Post by **H20nly** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:42 pm

^ @ the_antagonist

yeah WTF you're like 370 years old why don't you know that alreay???

fukin great great great great great great granddaddies these days...

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 9:42 pm

derzai wrote:
Johann Fux could have told you that 350 years ago.

not without wifi

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:07 pm

the_antagonist wrote:i think everyone has been flogging a dead horse. one of the first things i did is correct the error o fot i had. sharpening the f. but that didnt even sort of help. i must be in C again.

one good thing. the hook really is as good as i remember!!

Or G mixolydian.

G mixo will sound cool because the 7th is Fsharp flattened to......yes, you got it, F.

If youre not playing chords or are playing 'rock chords' with no 3rd, then you can really flex the old scales over that chord as they all have the root and 5th in, so G mixo would work.

same notes as Cmajor, just starting on the 5th degree.

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 10:09 pm

Actually this makes sens to me from your first post.

You are playing in Gmixo but your ear is drawn to the original tonic chord of C, hence your feeling the bass has to go somewhere, but it doesn't, keep on the G and savour the mixo flavour.

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:23 pm

why did you say that at the start. one evening later I have a kick ass bass line and my killer hook doesnt fit any more. is this one of those moments where a track fragments into two differnt works?

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Thu Sep 03, 2009 11:42 pm

YAAAAAAAS

jeffplaysmoog · Post by **jeffplaysmoog** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 1:18 am

this is sounding more and more like we are in the key of C...

the_antagonist · Post by **the_antagonist** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 9:05 am

i not really sure. i think it was. but i stoped using the book and started using the force. i think as a result its changed colour and could now be in G.

UKRuss · Post by **UKRuss** » Fri Sep 04, 2009 10:18 am

Keep your bassline, wack a scale plug on your killer hook and start running through the scales.

Key of C is same as G mixo essentially, or G with additional accidental b at the 7th.

Whatever i suppose, question is mainly: Does the chown rock hard???

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